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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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Further Harm said:
I've beaten RAWK to the punch and come up with a poem about it:

LFC fans are rightly pleased
Because of what they did
They walked out the stadium a bit early
Cos some tickets will be 77 quid
Their 'power' cost their team two points you see
So the fans are absolutely fine
That their team now sits proudly
In league position number nine
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lol lol lol
 

Further Harm said:
I've beaten RAWK to the punch and come up with a poem about it:

LFC fans are rightly pleased
Because of what they did
They walked out the stadium a bit early
Cos some tickets will be 77 quid
Their 'power' cost their team two points you see
So the fans are absolutely fine
That their team now sits proudly
In league position number nine
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lol Beezer!
 
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David Squires from the Guardian. Looks like he's seen an Alternative Premier League table...
 

Khalekan said:
I think it is a bit much referring to people who pay good money to watch a football match and stay to the end as "scabs and rats".

It is a free choice......and I can state categorically if such a stunt was ever attempted at Goodison yours truly will not be joining in.

On the general subject, at the end of the day people do have a choice.

You pay the price of the ticket as set by the club or you do not.

Lots of people I know can no longer afford to go to Goodison.....Anfiekd as well.....and Goodison must be the cheapest ticket price of any major club.

The way they are trying to turn this into some kind of humanitarian crusade is nauseating.

They, more than any other set of fans, seem to think their club belongs to them. It doesn't.

We belong to our clubs.....not the other way round.

I am almost expecting Bob Geldorf to organise Kop Aid to help them out.

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I think it is scab behaviour for them not to support it. Not in a nasty way just in a classical sense of the word. Rat is quite harsh and I throw it in fairly frequently and loosely when talking of their fanbase. It's overly harsh on those who wished to stay, but I think the ones who have had a go at supporters walking out, saying they've cost the club points are little better than rats. Blaming supporters for the mistakes of players is a poor way to behave.

As for the rest, you are entitled to your opinion. I think clubs have an important role to play to their local communities. In many ways you are right, they set the price, and people choose whether to pay it. However there is a third option, which is register your discontent at the actions of those taking the decision. In a free society people are also able to do that.

I don't agree with the idea that I belong to a football club. Nor do I think the football club belongs to me. I think it's too simplistic a way to view things. There is an important debate happening with football at the minute though, whether it's about ordinary working class fans or whether it't about a globalised branding and selling to foreign markets.

Whats happened at Liverpool is quite telling. They are a club that have embraced the secondary idea and are now paying the penalty for it. In honesty I would be appalled if we turned into what they have become. A stadium filled with out of towners and day trippers who looked down scornfully and dismissively at the local community.

The idea that we would price out Evertonians who have been going to the match for years during the hard times, for newer supporters looking for a day our who happen to be able to pay more would go against everything the club should stand for. I'd still support us, but it wouldn't be the same Everton thats for sure.

I admire the lads who walked out. don't think the Geldof comparisons are accurate or helpful. He was a man parachuting himself into another continent trying to solve structural problems with charity while avoiding paying taxes. These are in the main local lads, who have paid into the club over generations saying that (more) money alone shouldn't be the only factor in deciding who gets to watch the team.

The problem they seem to face is they want unity. They will never get it. I have lived hundreds of miles away from merseyside and known loads of reds who had seen Liverpool play less than I had. They have nothing in common with ordinary fans from the area. As they've been saying "i'm glad prices are going up, it means I might get my season ticket now".

You can't have unity with those sorts of people. In the end they want to take the last remaining remnants of the local community that exist within LFC and price them out. I feel sorry for them. At the same time I am delighted as it will be advantageous to us to be the team of City. I hope they cause as much disharmony as possible along the way though.
 

If these barstewards win tonight I shall be demonstrably raging. It's bad enough that my dog died today, 11 year old German Shepherd but this would really put the tin hat on it.
 
catcherintherye said:
I think it is scab behaviour for them not to support it. Not in a nasty way just in a classical sense of the word.
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you lost me at that bit right there ^^^

As a lifelong Trade Unionist I can tell you that choosing to stay until the end of a football match rather than walk out well before the end is in no way, shape or form scabbism in the "classical sense of the word".

Or in any other sense of the word.

Scabbism is the Union of Democratic Mineworkers in Nottingham circa 1985.

Or on the picket lines at Wapping around the same time.

Or at any industrial dispute in this country where people's liveliehoods said were put at risk or in some cases destroyed by scab labour going in and doing the work of striking employees.

To compare people deciding to sit and enjoy what remained of a a football match instead of walking out with scab behaviour is just plain ridiculous.

(Though by the end, I suspect most of the buggers that stayed wished they had walked out with the Superkopites :pint2:)
 

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