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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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It was actually Bruce Grobbelaar who started the rumours. He said that he was concerned before the game as to the amount of Chelsea shirts he saw around the ground.

He never told anyone until everyone was home like.



Grobbelaar’s penalty heroics helped Liverpool win the European Cup in Rome in 1984. A year later, they reached the final again, when they were due to play Juventus in Brussels. With 60,000 fans assembling inside the Heysel stadium, a riot started, resulting in the collapse of an already crumbling wall and the deaths of 39 Juventus supporters. A five-year blanket ban on English sides playing in Europe followed, but Grobbelaar is adamant that the instigators were not from Liverpool.

“It was worse than witnessing what I saw in the Bush. These were grown men behaving like savages. My then mother-in-law came over for the final on the ferry, and she was one of many who were handed pamphlets by the National Front, which basically said, 'Liverpool will not be in Europe again.'

"The NF saw Scousers as scroungers and envied Liverpool’s success on a football field. My mother-in-law said that a lot of the people handing out pamphlets had Chelsea and Millwall tattoos on their arms. People are still free now with blood on their hands.”

Grobbelaar later decided to try to find out for sure whether the NF were really implicated in Heysel. “I travelled to one of their headquarters just outside Slough for a group meeting. They recognised me straight away and because I was a white guy from Rhodesia, they assumed that I was racist. So they welcomed me.

"I had a drink and tried to relax. One of the heads approached me and we got talking. I asked whether they knew anybody who was involved in Heysel and all of a sudden he went cold, said no, then walked off. He sussed me and I decided it was best I leave for my own safety.”

Dalglish came out with this on remembering Heysel:

"We learned afterwards that some Juventus fans at the unsegregated end had been throwing stones at Liverpool supporters, which was why some of our fans ran at them on that terrace in Heysel. Liverpool fans were blamed for killing the Italians but people forget the circumstances. On previous away trips, Liverpool fans had behaved themselves as well as anyone. So why was Heysel different? The stadium, the organisation and the attacks on Liverpool fans in Rome were factors in the Heysel disaster."
 

Not gonna bet my mortgage on this, but I dont even think fans wore replica shirts to games back then. Scarfs, caps, badges, yeah, but not football strips.

Yeah remembered the quote wrong, it was on pamphlets handed out top his Mother in Law, and the tattoos on the arms of the people handing them out. Details are in the bit below.
 

Agent on Talksport just said something interesting.

Was with Dalgish, trying to get Beardsly from Newcastle. Stalemate. Dalgish tells agent to say Liverpool will pay for Newcastle to pay the player a loyalty payment, if that makes sense.

Seemed odd. Maybe I am naive.
 
I've seen Munich '58 flags at Heysel and in a load more RS games before and since which didn't directly involve Man Utd (not to mention the morons at Spirit of Shankley being captured on video celebrating the self same tragedy). This, along with the way the RS conducted themselves when Suarez racially abused Patrice Evra, just shows how they get away with the blatantly scummy behaviour they try to accuse others of.

Most footy fans can see through the over-hyped, whinging, self-aggrandising, self-pitying, sycophantic and one-eyed media and RS spin and see that club for what they really are: shameless hypocrites.


Everyone's second team??? MY ARSE.
 
Agent on Talksport just said something interesting.

Was with Dalgish, trying to get Beardsly from Newcastle. Stalemate. Dalgish tells agent to say Liverpool will pay for Newcastle to pay the player a loyalty payment, if that makes sense.

Seemed odd. Maybe I am naive.
I don't think that's dodgy, personally mate.

Just added re-imbursement for Newcastle.
 

It was actually Bruce Grobbelaar who started the rumours. He said that he was concerned before the game as to the amount of Chelsea shirts he saw around the ground.

He never told anyone until everyone was home like.



Grobbelaar’s penalty heroics helped Liverpool win the European Cup in Rome in 1984. A year later, they reached the final again, when they were due to play Juventus in Brussels. With 60,000 fans assembling inside the Heysel stadium, a riot started, resulting in the collapse of an already crumbling wall and the deaths of 39 Juventus supporters. A five-year blanket ban on English sides playing in Europe followed, but Grobbelaar is adamant that the instigators were not from Liverpool.

“It was worse than witnessing what I saw in the Bush. These were grown men behaving like savages. My then mother-in-law came over for the final on the ferry, and she was one of many who were handed pamphlets by the National Front, which basically said, 'Liverpool will not be in Europe again.'

"The NF saw Scousers as scroungers and envied Liverpool’s success on a football field. My mother-in-law said that a lot of the people handing out pamphlets had Chelsea and Millwall tattoos on their arms. People are still free now with blood on their hands.”

Grobbelaar later decided to try to find out for sure whether the NF were really implicated in Heysel. “I travelled to one of their headquarters just outside Slough for a group meeting. They recognised me straight away and because I was a white guy from Rhodesia, they assumed that I was racist. So they welcomed me.

"I had a drink and tried to relax. One of the heads approached me and we got talking. I asked whether they knew anybody who was involved in Heysel and all of a sudden he went cold, said no, then walked off. He sussed me and I decided it was best I leave for my own safety.”
The problem with him is, that there may be a grain of truth to this, HOWEVER, his later dishonest actions make him hard to believe.
 
I see Gerrard is back in town and at Melwood for some treatment...or, moreover, another dose of rumour rehabilitation. Cue another "Ive always said Id love to be back in some capacity at the club... but its not for me to say" style interview and hugs with Herr Klopp before/after the Utd game. They could even hang-glide him down from his speck in the new stand in time for the Klopp Conga after the final whistle.
 
I see Gerrard is back in town and at Melwood for some treatment...or, moreover, another dose of rumour rehabilitation. Cue another "Ive always said Id love to be back in some capacity at the club... but its not for me to say" style interview and hugs with Herr Klopp before/after the Utd game. They could even hang-glide him down from his speck in the new stand in time for the Klopp Conga after the final whistle.

Probably overseeing the building of his mansion in Formby. I drove passed it the other day, looks an eye sore.
 
Given sky's ridiculous build up to this MNF, you'd think United and the RS have never played each other before.

Nothing excited the media more than when they think Liverpool are half decent. The Burnley game is all forgotten now. I hope Mourinho does them and recreates his title killing celebration of 13/14. The file would be unimaginable.
 

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