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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"
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summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
They're never complete without their bloody banners. You'll Never Wave Alone.
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Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Funniest part of this whole thing is that it was Moyes who started the rot. They've only beaten Plymouth since he did the job on them.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
so basically if they sign three world class player to start in there back 5 then there defence would improve, my God the mans a genius who stated that...
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
and if that wasn't bad enough he did it twice
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Not exactly wheat you want to see your player uploading online the night after osing 2-0 to Hull really - lad seems utterly devestated and hurting by the result 
Very quiet at work today.... Although a couple of rs church mice have broken their vows of silence to announce the thrashing in form 2nd place spurs are getting this weekend.... Has their delusion no bounds ?!
Not exactly wheat you want to see your player uploading online the night after osing 2-0 to Hull really - lad seems utterly devestated and hurting by the result
Is he driving? In which case it won't be a recent recording!
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Nah mate it's the backseat by the looks of it, and was uploaded by him on Instagram after losing to hull the next morning/late that night.
Not exactly good PR by him like lols
see below
I think, if I'm not mistaken, he's singing "I just picked up my pay packet for the month... I got £300,000... me and this sexy lady are going to have some fun...and you fans can all kiss my ass" (then the bird blows them a kiss). My Brazilian Portuguese is a bit iffy mind so I could be wrong.
Yorkie
Player Valuation: £35m
His teeth are whiter than is naturally possible, looks ridiculous - they're nearly glow in the dark ffs.
Interesting article on the RS from Paul Joyce in today's Times...not so much a match report as a stark 'warts n all'.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/t...ptions-to-arrest-liverpools-decline-zg7psg675
Klopp running out of options to arrest Liverpool’s decline
The greatest contrast came not on the pitch, even if Hull City had given their all and Liverpool had offered nothing, but with the managers. While Marco Silva is working a miracle, Jürgen Klopp looked and sounded as if he needs one.
Liverpool have now endured their worst start to a calendar year since 1954, a season in which they were relegated, and Klopp left the KCOM Stadium seeking to put a brave face on the reality that a place in the top four will slip from his side’s grasp unless he can correct an alarming downturn.
Yet the conundrums facing Liverpool and their manager are onerous.
“When I get up, I will only be solution-orientated,” Klopp said. “There are solutions, 100 per cent. Even though at this moment it feels really bad, it’s not the biggest problem in the world.”
Fragile foundations
When Liverpool thrashed Hull 5-1 in September, with Sadio Mané, Adam Lallana and Philippe Coutinho among the scorers, it came in a two-month period when they swatted all-comers aside and moved clear at the summit of the table. Yet their slump pre-dates the new year and has lasted as long as those swaggering displays when anything felt possible.
Klopp’s confidence in his players, having invested so much in them, is clearly being tested. He must hope that he has not overestimated their capabilities, confusing players capable of raising their game when everything goes for them with those good enough to produce consistently over an entire campaign.
Liverpool, in general, have a habit of believing that they are better than they really are. Good players do not need to be constantly defended by their manager; they go out and prove it where it matters. Yet Liverpool’s defeats this season have come to teams in 18th place (Burnley), 12th (Bournemouth), 20th (Swansea) and 19th (Hull). Chelsea have dropped only two points against teams outside the top six.
How Klopp can change it
Liverpool do have options. Loris Karius can replace Simon Mignolet, at fault for Alfred N’Diaye’s opener for Hull, in goal. The midfield could be stiffened if James Milner moves forward and Alberto Moreno comes in at left back, while Daniel Sturridge and Divock Origi could bolster an attacking triumvirate that has lost its spark. But they don’t feel like convincing changes that will make a great difference. Sturridge has not been able to muster any semblance of form, partly because of injury but also because he is never afforded a run of games, and Origi has lost his way.
Opponents no longer drop deep because they are scared of Liverpool, but as a tactic to stymie them. A striker who would provide a different focal point would amount to a Plan B, but there is not one. Many Liverpool supporters openly wonder why Emre Can is starting, but the more telling question is why is it a choice between Can or Georginio Wijnaldum? Not long ago Klopp was reminding his inquisitors of their impertinence for questioning whether his midfield was strong enough. As Tom Huddlestone caught the eye for Hull, the Liverpool manager might be minded to accept that argument was not so flimsy.
Money, money, money
It is a year ago today since Liverpool supporters walked out of Anfield en masse during a draw with Sunderland in protest at plans to hike up ticket prices. Faced with their biggest crisis, owners Fenway Sports Group backed down. That was then, this is now. Klopp maintains Liverpool’s failure to consolidate in January was because targets were not available rather than the club being unwilling to spend.
This summer’s transfer plans will be interesting. Liverpool need a new goalkeeper, a left back, a centre half, possibly two, a central midfielder and an out-and-out goalscorer. Conservative cost? £120 million — and Liverpool will not have a player to cash in on, like Luis Suárez in 2014, Raheem Sterling in 2015 or Christian Benteke in 2016, unless Sturridge leaves. If the club’s ambition was not found wanting last month, it will come under scrutiny again.
Where has all the energy gone?
Rediscovering the boundless energy of September and October will be key to reviving Liverpool’s Champions League hopes. They need to start matches more quickly, having failed to score before the 55th minute in any of their past five games. Liverpool conceded the first goal on four occasions in their opening 21 matches, coming back to win three of those. They have now fallen behind in each of their past three games and not won any of them. One thing is certain: do not expect Liverpool’s substitutes to wrest a game back from the brink. Substitutes have scored only three in the league this season and on two occasions the outcome was beyond doubt. Only Origi’s breakthrough in a 2-0 win against Sunderland in November has been crucial. Last season, Klopp’s substitutions earned Liverpool 11 points.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/t...ptions-to-arrest-liverpools-decline-zg7psg675
Klopp running out of options to arrest Liverpool’s decline
The greatest contrast came not on the pitch, even if Hull City had given their all and Liverpool had offered nothing, but with the managers. While Marco Silva is working a miracle, Jürgen Klopp looked and sounded as if he needs one.
Liverpool have now endured their worst start to a calendar year since 1954, a season in which they were relegated, and Klopp left the KCOM Stadium seeking to put a brave face on the reality that a place in the top four will slip from his side’s grasp unless he can correct an alarming downturn.
Yet the conundrums facing Liverpool and their manager are onerous.
“When I get up, I will only be solution-orientated,” Klopp said. “There are solutions, 100 per cent. Even though at this moment it feels really bad, it’s not the biggest problem in the world.”
Fragile foundations
When Liverpool thrashed Hull 5-1 in September, with Sadio Mané, Adam Lallana and Philippe Coutinho among the scorers, it came in a two-month period when they swatted all-comers aside and moved clear at the summit of the table. Yet their slump pre-dates the new year and has lasted as long as those swaggering displays when anything felt possible.
Klopp’s confidence in his players, having invested so much in them, is clearly being tested. He must hope that he has not overestimated their capabilities, confusing players capable of raising their game when everything goes for them with those good enough to produce consistently over an entire campaign.
Liverpool, in general, have a habit of believing that they are better than they really are. Good players do not need to be constantly defended by their manager; they go out and prove it where it matters. Yet Liverpool’s defeats this season have come to teams in 18th place (Burnley), 12th (Bournemouth), 20th (Swansea) and 19th (Hull). Chelsea have dropped only two points against teams outside the top six.
How Klopp can change it
Liverpool do have options. Loris Karius can replace Simon Mignolet, at fault for Alfred N’Diaye’s opener for Hull, in goal. The midfield could be stiffened if James Milner moves forward and Alberto Moreno comes in at left back, while Daniel Sturridge and Divock Origi could bolster an attacking triumvirate that has lost its spark. But they don’t feel like convincing changes that will make a great difference. Sturridge has not been able to muster any semblance of form, partly because of injury but also because he is never afforded a run of games, and Origi has lost his way.
Opponents no longer drop deep because they are scared of Liverpool, but as a tactic to stymie them. A striker who would provide a different focal point would amount to a Plan B, but there is not one. Many Liverpool supporters openly wonder why Emre Can is starting, but the more telling question is why is it a choice between Can or Georginio Wijnaldum? Not long ago Klopp was reminding his inquisitors of their impertinence for questioning whether his midfield was strong enough. As Tom Huddlestone caught the eye for Hull, the Liverpool manager might be minded to accept that argument was not so flimsy.
Money, money, money
It is a year ago today since Liverpool supporters walked out of Anfield en masse during a draw with Sunderland in protest at plans to hike up ticket prices. Faced with their biggest crisis, owners Fenway Sports Group backed down. That was then, this is now. Klopp maintains Liverpool’s failure to consolidate in January was because targets were not available rather than the club being unwilling to spend.
This summer’s transfer plans will be interesting. Liverpool need a new goalkeeper, a left back, a centre half, possibly two, a central midfielder and an out-and-out goalscorer. Conservative cost? £120 million — and Liverpool will not have a player to cash in on, like Luis Suárez in 2014, Raheem Sterling in 2015 or Christian Benteke in 2016, unless Sturridge leaves. If the club’s ambition was not found wanting last month, it will come under scrutiny again.
Where has all the energy gone?
Rediscovering the boundless energy of September and October will be key to reviving Liverpool’s Champions League hopes. They need to start matches more quickly, having failed to score before the 55th minute in any of their past five games. Liverpool conceded the first goal on four occasions in their opening 21 matches, coming back to win three of those. They have now fallen behind in each of their past three games and not won any of them. One thing is certain: do not expect Liverpool’s substitutes to wrest a game back from the brink. Substitutes have scored only three in the league this season and on two occasions the outcome was beyond doubt. Only Origi’s breakthrough in a 2-0 win against Sunderland in November has been crucial. Last season, Klopp’s substitutions earned Liverpool 11 points.
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
I can't believe Klopp's even being doubted really.
Taking off my blue tinted specs for a second, if you offered a Liverpool fan 4th at the start of the season, they'd have bitten your hand off. Only because they've flown out the blocks, is that even under any scrutiny. Arsenal, United and City have all had their fair share of blips this season.
Either way, who needs a blockbuster movie when you've got a Kopite Meltdown
Taking off my blue tinted specs for a second, if you offered a Liverpool fan 4th at the start of the season, they'd have bitten your hand off. Only because they've flown out the blocks, is that even under any scrutiny. Arsenal, United and City have all had their fair share of blips this season.
Either way, who needs a blockbuster movie when you've got a Kopite Meltdown
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