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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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Minimeister said:
And he still brought Moreno off the bench last night lol

75m and 3 (?) transfer windows and he still relies on Lucas and Moreno. You can argue the managers merits all you like but that's shocking.
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looked at their squad, they have just a squad of 19! 19! and i've included players like gjurcic and klaven in that and that includes alex manninger!

i mean, it's baffling to fathom. Especially when you weight up their best XI and you'd say there's 4 or 5 positions which defeinitely need strengthening.
 
d34noj said:
It's not been taken offensively by anybody else. Why on earth would you take umbrage with it?
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We have a thread to make fun of, and even ridicule LFC, and they, through rawk, have one that does the same to us
and that's OK. Most of it's banter.

Some of us go a bit too far, sometimes, but imo references to the 96 is a step which goes much too far.
 

Jeff Jones said:
We have a thread to make fun of, and even ridicule LFC, and they, through rawk, have one that does the same to us
and that's OK. Most of it's banter.

Some of us go a bit too far, sometimes, but imo references to the 96 is a step which goes much too far.
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It is banter mate, it's only you not seeing it as such. If it offends you so much stick me on ignore. I have nothing but complete respect for the families and what they have been through, what my implication is that LFC use it as a (massively disrespectfully) promotion for their brand.

But this is for another thread and another debate.
 
davek said:
THAT's your smoking gun in relation to your accusation I was "highly dismissive" of Klopp?

Lol.
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Klopp I'm unconcerned about. He's going to be a buffoon we can all lampoon I suspect.


The problem is, it's old hat ('gegenpressing') and been mastered in the Bundesliga. Klopp will find it hard doing what he did 7 years ago at Dortmund over here


He'd be an obvious upgrade on the no mark clown who was just kicked out, but I still think Klopp is an enormous gamble. He's obviously a loose cannon. If things dont go well I think his time at both Mainz and Dortmund show that he can lash out at enemies real and perceived. And our media would have him going bananas in 6 months flat.
I just think he had his way of operating in the Bundesliga that caught everyone napping and he was able to build on that system successfully before the penny dropped a couple of years later. Would he surprise teams in the much more competitive PL with its many astute managers? I highly doubt it.

The general feeling also is that his pressing style has been found out and nullified.
I would hate Liverpool to get Ancelotti. Klopp I'd shrug my shoulders on. Proven himself as a manager, and certainly not a no mark like Rodgers was, but unproven nowhere other than the Bundesliga and there's only ever been Magath who's had a go at it from Germany.
It looks fraught with difficultly for him, tbh. I still dont see it happening though. Klopp probably knows he wont be a good traveller.

Klopp is a flakey German untried outside the Bundesliga.

I'm bringing all my vast expertise to bear on this - it will NOT be Klopp.

Overall - and another point you raised yesterday - I dont see Klopp's style having the impact on the PL as it did the Bundesliga. The high octane stuff he deploys is not unusual in the PL and the managers are here in spades who can nullify Klopps tactics.

If it's Klopp then it'll be a massively difficult for him to work the oracle here. His Dortmund success was basically to mug a complacent Bundesliga with pressing football. For a time he got it dead spot on right and translated that into progress in Europe for one season. Then Bayern showed them a clean pair of heels and they couldn't even compete in the Bundesliga.


By November the novelty will have worn off and they'll have a manager in place who has a lot to prove after last season's meltdown.
I just dont see him replicating anything like the type of success that he had in the Bundesliga - a league he was a manager in for 9 seasons before he achieved anything of note

It's not wishful thinking or anything. The only wish I had on the matter of their managerial appointment was that it wasn't Ancelotti. Klopp I'm unconcerned about. He's going to be a buffoon we can all lampoon I suspect.

My biggest doubt about Klopp remains, however, that his type of game is not all that in an English setting

It's difficult to keep on getting success. Klopp had a wave of glory and fell away.

Hard work is all he'll offer them. I've seen enough of him up close here at liverpool now to know they'll never play with flair. An ugly, no frils team. Very basic. Klopp's style is 99% perspiration 1% inspiration. Without Coutinho they're basically a Stoke or Southampton.



OK Dave, have another 13 of your posts about Klopp, yes mate you REALLY rated him lol
 

toffeejack said:
like i said, that centre partnership they put out today is the worst in the league. Sunderland's isn't great, but i'd have o'shea and kone over those two, lucas is not a centre back, he doesn't carry a single attribute which says he should be. They're only missing lovren ffs.
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I think you are right mate. What's worrying for them is Lucas has become first fallback option. Gome now looks at best a lad who may get a squad in the championship. As for Matip I read somewhere they are paying him 110k per week. Yes it was a "free" but when wages are taken into account it looks like they've grossly overpaid.
 

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