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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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Wonder if the FA will have the balls to extend the ban because surely it should be classed as a frivolous appeal.






















So 1 game ban it will be then.

You jest, but I think the incident in the Newcastle game may play in their favour. Whilst not as bad, it was close enough to Mane's for there to be some debate about the inconsistency amongst referees on similar incidents. Hopefully however the FA rule that it was in fact the yellow that was the incorrect ruling, not the red.

Also I definitely missed the FA memo, but are all straight red cards now automatic three game bans? Or only the ones deemed "violent conduct"? For instance, are professional fouls, last man etc only one match bans?
 

You jest, but I think the incident in the Newcastle game may play in their favour. Whilst not as bad, it was close enough to Mane's for there to be some debate about the inconsistency amongst referees on similar incidents. Hopefully however the FA rule that it was in fact the yellow that was the incorrect ruling, not the red.

Also I definitely missed the FA memo, but are all straight red cards now automatic three game bans? Or only the ones deemed "violent conduct"? For instance, are professional fouls, last man etc only one match bans?

Straight Reds are 3 games. Unless it wasnt, under the rules, a straight Red.

But it was.

The Yellow for Ritchie (?) should have been Red.
 
Straight Reds are 3 games. Unless it wasnt, under the rules, a straight Red.

But it was.

The Yellow for Ritchie (?) should have been Red.

Thanks for clearing that up. In that the case there's no grounds for the RS to appeal, it was a red and that's the minimum ban. Thems the rules kids.

Is there any precedent for the FA reducing (rather than simply overturning) a ban from a red card? Hopefully it's dismissed as a frivolous appeal and another game is added on. I do always wonder if the side appealing has some private (informed illegally) inkling that it may go in their favour though... I mean why would you chance appealing, knowing you could get further punishment, unless you had a feeling it would go your way.
 
You jest, but I think the incident in the Newcastle game may play in their favour. Whilst not as bad, it was close enough to Mane's for there to be some debate about the inconsistency amongst referees on similar incidents. Hopefully however the FA rule that it was in fact the yellow that was the incorrect ruling, not the red.

Also I definitely missed the FA memo, but are all straight red cards now automatic three game bans? Or only the ones deemed "violent conduct"? For instance, are professional fouls, last man etc only one match bans?

Straight red for serious foul play or violent conduct, automatic 3 game ban, a straight red for dissent is a 2 match ban, straight red for denying a goal scoring opportunity (professional foul) is a 1 game ban. Supposedly if you have already had a red card that led to a 1 game ban, then get another red card for something like stopping a goal scoring opportunity, both in the same season, then instead of the normal one game ban, it becomes a 2 game ban.
 
Thanks for clearing that up. In that the case there's no grounds for the RS to appeal, it was a red and that's the minimum ban. Thems the rules kids.

Is there any precedent for the FA reducing (rather than simply overturning) a ban from a red card? Hopefully it's dismissed as a frivolous appeal and another game is added on. I do always wonder if the side appealing has some private (informed illegally) inkling that it may go in their favour though... I mean why would you chance appealing, knowing you could get further punishment, unless you had a feeling it would go your way.

I'm sure John Terry had a 3 game ban reduced to one game on appeal for serious foul play.

On your second point, we are talking about the RS here.
 
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Graeme Poll on Talk sport earlier saying its pathetic people are saying it's not a red, and no chance Liverpool will appeal because if they do they will probably get another game added on, let's hope so

Hopefully that's the case. However both Clattenburg and Halsey both said they would have only issued a yellow which says to me their may be people of a similar view and subsequently sympathetic to the appeal. Hopefully the FA aren't wishy washy.
 
Hopefully that's the case. However both Clattenburg and Halsey both said they would have only issued a yellow which says to me their may be people of a similar view and subsequently sympathetic to the appeal. Hopefully the FA aren't wishy washy.
True, he was saying the FA should look at is as dangerous play regardless of if the player is injured or not or what his intent was.

Was also saying it was irresponsible of certain players that young kids look up to saying it wasn't a red
 


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that's one of the saddest videos i've ever seen. Some middle aged virgin constantly trying to start chants that nobody else wants to join in with, shouting munich and man city fans and then actually joining in with their mocking of steve gerrard thinking he'll drown them out, all whilst holding the v's up in front of his camera the whole game thinking that it would actually infuriate the couple of kids standing opposite him.
 

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