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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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jaycee said:
Two videos of them chanting Munich,booing of Evra,the searching of Holgates twitter and the accusations of him lying,yearly accusations of Hillsborough chants from Everton fans,seems to be a large minority
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They literally have tens of millions of fans so its quite clearly a tiny minority unless you have evidence of thousands upon thousands of people doing this.

I know no one likes rational logic in this thread but still, it’s always going to be a tiny minority in grand scale of things hence why most people accept that most fans of most teams are perfectly normal decent people... that’s no fun though so as fans we prefer to focus on the loud gobshite minority as it suits our agenda better. All fans do this, most know they are doing it but you get some who genuinely believe that its representative of a majority of fans... these types tend to be a bit simple themselves and probably shouldn’t be mocking others.
 
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Prevenger17 said:
There's definitely been Hillsborough chants. Solomon Grundy from RAWK swore he heard them, and even made fake accounts on here to tell us. What more evidence do you need than the words of a lying sack of diarrhoea?
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They've been known to sing "the s*n was right you're murderers" which is a direct reference to "The Truth" headline
 

Prevenger17 said:
Ignore Grundy mate, he's a strange one
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Im still waiting for him to provide any evidence what so ever from the last time he made an appearance,also asked a couple of kopites who appeared to wish us good luck in finishing 4th to pull him up on RAWK about the allegations,unfortunately they disappeared as quickly as Ba latched on to slippys slip
 
longers said:
They literally have tens of millions of fans so its quite clearly a tiny minority unless you have evidence of thousands upon thousands of people doing this.

I know no one likes rational logic in this thread but still, it’s always going to be a tiny minority in grand scale of things hence why most people accept that most fans of most teams are perfectly normal decent people... that’s no fun though so as fans we prefer to focus on the loud gobshite minority as it suits our agenda better. All fans do this, most know they are doing it but you get some who genuinely believe that its representative of a majority of fans... these types tend to be a bit simple themselves and probably shouldn’t be mocking others.
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The tiny minority of them that boo Evra are very loud, aren't they?
 
Prevenger17 said:
The tiny minority of them that boo Evra are very loud, aren't they?
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Strawman arguement im afraid, you need to come up with better than that. No proof it was a majority and there were tons of Liverpool fans online criticising those that booed.

The level of delusional involved to convince yourself that a majority of a fanbase of millions are all scumbags is quite remarkable and no matter how much of an echo chamber this forum can be with regard to them I’d hope that even the simplest folk could get their head around this.
 
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The Speke Spectre said:
They've been known to sing "the s*n was right you're murderers" which is a direct reference to "The Truth" headline
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The last time they sang that at Goodison it was met with the response it deserved. The point he was making was we had a lad from Preston pretending to be a blue so he could accuse us of all kinds of Hillsborough related behaviour. If he was a scouser, or if he was a blue, he'd realise that anyone caught doing that by his fellow fan would be hanging from the nearest floodlight. The fact he would use the death of 96 fans to try and scores points was absolutely disgusting yet no-one amongst the brain dead on RAWK even mentioned it apparently. Absolute weird cult full of whoppers.
 

longers said:
Strawman arguement im afraid, you need to come up with better than that.
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The loud booing and overwhelming negativity they express towards a player who had the temerity to be racially abused by one of their own must be my imagination so.

On a separate note, I think you're probably a bit too earnest to get this thread. It's some over-egged tribalism, almost every football forum has an equivalent, Liverpool's included. You don't need to come bowling in here saying "they're people too you know guys" because we know. We all have mates and family who support Liverpool. The lads who really put their foot on the pedal in this thread are an even smaller minority than the small section of Liverpool fans you talk about, it's just mean words on a forum, so I think you're being a bit sensitive. No right-minded person on here thinks you're a kopite either
 
Prevenger17 said:
On a separate note, I think you're probably a bit too earnest to get this thread. It's some over-egged tribalism, almost every football forum has an equivalent, Liverpool's included. You don't need to come bowling in here saying "they're people too you know guys" because we know. We all have mates and family who support Liverpool. The lads who really put their foot on the pedal in this thread are an even smaller minority than the small section of Liverpool fans you talk about, it's just mean words on a forum, so I think you're being a bit sensitive. No right-minded person on here thinks you're a kopite either
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I know a lot of it is over-egged tribalism, you can usually spot those types of posts a mile off but im fairly sure there are certain posters who legitimately believe everything they are typing. I guess I just got old and find the whole tribal aspect utterly pointless with no redeeming aspects whatsoever. Nothing good comes from the 'murderers' type stuff and it makes me cringe that some people use it to score points.
 
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I know a lot of it is over-egged tribalism, you can usually spot those types of posts a mile off but im fairly sure there are certain posters who legitimately believe everything they are typing. I guess I just got old and find the whole tribal aspect utterly pointless with no redeeming aspects whatsoever. Nothing good comes from the 'murderers' type stuff and it makes me cringe that some people use it to score points.
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Go on any football forum and you get extremes,all geordies punch horses and live on Greggs,all Boro are 6 fingered two headed mutants,all Man United are asian,Kopites are Norwegian,out of 1000 posts there might be a reasonable one,RAWK is pretty much the same I would guess
 
longers said:
Strawman arguement im afraid, you need to come up with better than that. No proof it was a majority and there were tons of Liverpool fans online criticising those that booed.

The level of delusional involved to convince yourself that a majority of a fanbase of millions are all scumbags is quite remarkable and no matter how much of an echo chamber this forum can be with regard to them I’d hope that even the simplest folk could get their head around this.
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It's absolutely the majority who condemned the victim of racist abuse rather than the perpetrator.

To this day not one has condemned suarez. Disgraceful, wouldnt you say?
 

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