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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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Ok yeah. But the way City play the ball out of defence is taylor made for Liverpool.

I'll put it a diffetent way. The RS was the one team City didnt want. Pep would fancy his chances against the rest.

RS favourites to go through for me.

Aaaghhhhh.

City put three past them away, in Europe a 4-3 first leg result away would be considered a decent result, city absolutely murdered them at home, combined score 8-4 this season.

City can rotate and focus more over both legs having already effectively win the league, the rs can't as they are looking over their shoulder at Chelsea now.

It's s myth about teams playing open being better for them to get from a rs pov, the worst scenario really for them is a team that can match them in goals and are better everywhere else, city go through imo and do so with ease over the two games.
 
Kopites are hailing the fact they’ll have a ‘neutral’ ref as a leveller, yeah because they’re so badly done to by premier league refs ha. A European ref if anything would be a plus for City unless he’s yet another misty eyed old fool who gre up weened on the teet of Dalglish and Rush.
A kopite this morning would have hoped to face Seville or Roma and then hoped they could get a SF draw against either Seville or Roma if they could have fluked their QF.

As it is they have City over two legs (a team they've conceded to 8 times already this season), and in the unlikely event they get through that they would probably get to play Barcelona or Madrid.

They know for sure their season is run. The only debate is whether they can hold off Chelsea to secure a CL spot...and these two game against City will cause them a lot of problems.
 

Weird choice of Marley song to go for.
Weird to get the name and lyrics wrong after choosing that song.
Weird to go for red and white lettering/colours.
Very very weird to post as the centre piece if the design a massive 96 which dominates the shirt and the only link is the sings release date 15 years after he died.

Bit if a weakness of mine buying t-shirts from bygone musicians etc, kobain, Marley, Lennon and lots of others, honestly say never seen any design remotely like this and it just so happens that by coincidence, 3 things, colour, year, slogan can be linked heavily with Hiillsborough.

Sorry mate, it'd be as blatant as someone doing a huge white 58 on a red t-shirt, with the lyrics to leaving on a jet plane on it.

Indeed, it was a blatant wind up by someone.......
 
They will beat City on away goals, and smash us, cos we are gash.

Will hopefully stretch their squad to the limit at least. The derby increases the pressure on Klopp not to play a second string and unlike the Porto tie it’s unlikely that the quarter final will be over after one leg.
 
Will hopefully stretch their squad to the limit at least. The derby increases the pressure on Klopp not to play a second string and unlike the Porto tie it’s unlikely that the quarter final will be over after one leg.
My concern about us beating them, and Alladyce being given a pass for next season is very real.
 
Even if they were though, if City pulled even one back they’d be in a decent position for the second leg. Liverpool took advantage of some incredible sloppy play from City and great finishing to win 4-3 at Anfield. They’ll have to play well for more than just 20 mins to win over 180 mins. City can score home or away and have the same power to blow Liverpool away as they did at the Etihad. Liverpool can go through but there’s a world of difference between City and a poor continental side who don’t travel well.

Don't get me wrong, City are favourites here, but that's precisely how Liverpool seem to like it. Cameras on, big build up, "big chance for Liverpool to roll back the years and convince everyone they're still big players" and in this case, crucially, there's no Mourinho to spoil the party. In fact, Guardiola is the type of manager who sets up in a way which Liverpool can profit from.

It's why although many said City'd beat them at Anfield, a convincing (up until the last few mins) win in which Liverpool run riot was the most predictable outcome of that game imaginable, for me. I also wouldn't rule out a good defensive display in one of the games from Liverpool either. They're perfectly capable of scraping one together. They can't do it consistently, but the likes of Lovren have the odd belter performance from time to time.

I'm not trying to convince anyone they're going to win this tie for a second, but I don't think it'd be much of a surprise.
 

I'm surprised some are so confident. This is exactly the type of game that they excel themselves in and everything goes for them. I can see City crumbling under the pressure at Anfield. City need to make sure that they're not losing by more than 1 goal going in to the 2nd leg. If it's only 1 goal, I can still see City putting 3 or 4 past them at the Eithad.

If City aren't right on their game, Liverpool will win. These games are all they've had for over a decade. They will put in the shift of their season over the two legs.

City's approach is predictable and suits Liverpool. It won't matter if City don't bottle it as they'll be too good, but there's a real chance they might.
 
Liverpool have come up short in almost every big game in recent times. Their team from 05-09 had genuine quality crucially in defence. Apart from Salah you’d argue that none of their line up does which might be why in the real crunch moments in recent years they’ve fallen short. They’ve been cocky this season but actually apart from Arsenal all of the top 6 have had their number. They couldn’t beat Sevilla in 2 goes in the group either.
 
City put three past them away, in Europe a 4-3 first leg result away would be considered a decent result, city absolutely murdered them at home, combined score 8-4 this season.

City can rotate and focus more over both legs having already effectively win the league, the rs can't as they are looking over their shoulder at Chelsea now.

It's s myth about teams playing open being better for them to get from a rs pov, the worst scenario really for them is a team that can match them in goals and are better everywhere else, city go through imo and do so with ease over the two games.
Lets hope you're right mate.

Under Klopp, Liverpool have a good record against the top teams, especially teams like City and Arsenal. They were well in that first game until Mane got sent off. In the second they switched off and let City score 2 very late goals when they thought they were safe.

City may beat them and I certainly hope they do. But I can't see it being with ease. Not by a long way.
 
Lets hope you're right mate.

Under Klopp, Liverpool have a good record against the top teams, especially teams like City and Arsenal. They were well in that first game until Mane got sent off. In the second they switched off and let City score 2 very late goals when they thought they were safe.

City may beat them and I certainly hope they do. But I can't see it being with ease. Not by a long way.

That’s a bit of a revisionist take. At the Etihad they were already one down before Mane had been sent off and City had had multiple chances to go 2 up. Liverpool had got behind them a few times but City were by far the better side before and after the red card. The man advantage might have stopped Liverpool’s attacking threat but there’s still no reason why City should have run 5 in even against ten men.

At Anfield City were poor but still in the game at half time and could have been ahead after hitting the bar. What followed were moments of madness where Stones assisted Firmino with a routine clearance, a wonder finish by Mane, and a clanger from Ederson. City then showed they could unlock Liverpool easily almost levelling it. That without Silva playing.

They’ve taken 1 point from Spurs (fortuitously after being dominated in both games). 1 point from United. They could only draw with Chelsea at home. Their record against most of the top ten this season isn’t even that strong.

You should never bet against Liverpool and the devils club is easily capable of squirming past anyone but they haven’t done anything this season to suggest that they are deserving of the ridiculous build up they’ve been given. Beating Porto away is their only stand out result for a top team, the rest has been battering cannon fodder for big numbers. It’s the same team that managed to draw at home v West Brom, draw at home against us, lose at home to West Brom and lose to Swansea all in 2 months.

On paper they shouldn’t have even got here. Had they had a normal CL group (like Spurs or Chelsea) they’d probably be out, they had the easiest group potentially in CL history and then the easiest round of 16 possible.

Of course they’re capable of getting past City but this isn’t the all conquering team that the media make them out to be. Klopp has once again had extremely fortuitous circumstances this season and yet once again a more objective view would say he hasn’t taken advantage.

He is in a battle with a Spurs side not even at their own stadium and a Chelsea team in disarray for top 4 even after Arsenal have collapsed completely. He’s had favourable draws in the domestic cups and botched both. He’s had an injury free season when his rivals have carried long term injuries. He’s also had an extra year of two on most of his rival managers. Liverpool should be pushing City now for the league, and gone/going far in both cups. The fact they haven’t (again) should be viewed as a failure by Klopp except he’s got away with it because the media have convinced themselves they’ll win the CL. If they don’t it could all come crashing down for Klopp.
 

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