2022/23 Ellis Simms

[Paul Rideout]

What he has done is become the first sub in the managers mind if we are chasing a goal. Or if we are cruising (as if). And he will get 25-30 mins rather than 10-15 mins playing time.

And I think that is a decent enough spot for him to be in at the moment

 

[Lanolin]

I'm confused by people saying they thought he was a target man. It has been said over and over and over and over for years that all he ever did was score and that every other part of his game was lacking. They've been working to improve his all round game and there are signs that it's paying off, but there's still a long way to go. He's well capable of scoring goals coming off the bench though, he's clearly got that natural ability. It seems to have come from a Sunderland suggesting in an article that he knew what type of player he was from watching him 10 times on loan but the coaches who've been working with him for the last 6/7 years had him pegged all wrong, which is quite funny.

 

[oglop44]

I'm confused by people saying they thought he was a target man. It has been said over and over and over and over for years that all he ever did was score and that every other part of his game was lacking. They've been working to improve his all round game and there are signs that it's paying off, but there's still a long way to go. He's well capable of scoring goals coming off the bench though, he's clearly got that natural ability. It seems to have come from a Sunderland suggesting in an article that he knew what type of player he was from watching him 10 times on loan but the coaches who've been working with him for the last 6/7 years had him pegged all wrong, which is quite funny.

People really should read the Youth Teams thread more often. One of the absolute best threads on here imo. Plus they usually win more than the first team.

 

[Nymzee]

For anyone thinking I'm being edgy (cough Dave) with my rating of Simms you'll find even nearly 5 years ago I had the same concerns:

Everton Youth Teams Thread

Don't mind me. Just woke up. Can tell you grouchy little mofo.

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[badloaf]

If we were linked with Ellisio Simmsini from a random Italian team there'd be plenty saying sign him up.

Seen a lot worse highlight reels , Niasse springs to mind & we spunked 13mil on him.

£13m fee but we saved money on his locker.

 

[davek]

For anyone thinking I'm being edgy (cough Dave) with my rating of Simms you'll find even nearly 5 years ago I had the same concerns:

Everton Youth Teams Thread

Don't mind me. Just woke up. Can tell you grouchy little mofo.

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...and since you posted that - when he was an U18 player - he's had experience in 4 different leagues, scoring and proving himself in all of them.

As said: "edgy".

 

[Nymzee]

...and since you posted that - when he was an U18 player - he's had experience in 4 different leagues, scoring and proving himself in all of them.

As said: "edgy".

And yet all the things I worry witth him, still haven't been addressed 5 years later.

 

[Zatara]

Solksjaer super sub role for Simms.

Tell him to get in the box and get on the end of things.

 

[tsubaki]

I'm confused by people saying they thought he was a target man. It has been said over and over and over and over for years that all he ever did was score and that every other part of his game was lacking. They've been working to improve his all round game and there are signs that it's paying off, but there's still a long way to go. He's well capable of scoring goals coming off the bench though, he's clearly got that natural ability. It seems to have come from a Sunderland suggesting in an article that he knew what type of player he was from watching him 10 times on loan but the coaches who've been working with him for the last 6/7 years had him pegged all wrong, which is quite funny.

TBF that is what has happened to Lukaku - great in one position, but he looks like another black striker who had dreadlocks at one time so lets make him play the majority of his career in another position

 

[davek]

And yet all the things I worry witth him, still haven't been addressed 5 years later.

You didn't list anything. You merely said he gave off a 'Brewster vibe'.

 

[davek]

Solksjaer super sub role for Simms.

Tell him to get in the box and get on the end of things.

If held have been played as many times as Maupay had this season he'd have a good few goals.

 

[Lanolin]

TBF that is what has happened to Lukaku - great in one position, but he looks like another black striker who had dreadlocks at one time so lets make him play the majority of his career in another position

I think that's a slightly different thing. With all players there's going to be an expectation that they have to do things that they would rather not do in an ideal world. Lukaku would love to spend his career just running on to through balls and slotting but in the real world teams need him to offer more than that. Simms currently has the same issues, and the coaches have been aware of that for years. At the top level 'he's not really that type of player' just doesn't cut it, you're going to be expected to be able to hold your own at all aspects of the game, regardless of whether it's what you particularly want to do.

 

[Nymzee]

You didn't list anything. You merely said he gave off a 'Brewster vibe'.

Go nuts, I have talked about him often over the last 5 years when people have screamed for him to be in the first side: https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/search/574246/?q=simms&c[users]=Nymzee&o=date

Said from the beginning: he's big, can finish, that's about it.

Everton Youth Teams Thread

EVERTON U18S TEAM v Newcastle ko 1pm-we have a 1 point lead going into todays games at the top-but Liverpool are 3 up at ht,meaning we need to win to stay there,while those around us lead,or won WEre you there BL, or did you get th elist from online somewhere? If you were, what did you...

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Everton Youth Teams Thread

Nice to be still classed as giants.:) https://www.psv.nl/english-psv/news/article/barcelona-chivas-and-everton-take-part-in-2019-otten-cup.htm Barcelona, Chivas and Everton take part in 2019 Otten Cup date: 03-02-2019 13:00 The Otten Cup returns to Eindhoven in 2019 after a one-year...

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Everton Youth Teams Thread

I know it's only u18s but this Simms seems like a monster. Hes auditioning for a part in the remake incredible hulk soon lol

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Everton Youth Teams Thread

At 19 DCL had already played in the Sheff Utd first team, a loan at staylybridge & on the brink of his Everton debut. Moise Kean had played a year on loan in serie A & being used in the Juve first team squad by Simms' age. Richarlison had played a full season in Serie B in brazil & a full season...

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Homepage Article - Ellis Simms Joins Blackpool

Could have had a hat trick there too , so obviously MOTM , hope we get some extra money for it. Poor defending though for his goals, but itll give him even more confidence.

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[TangerineToffee]

If we were linked with Ellisio Simmsini from a random Italian team there'd be plenty saying sign him up.

Seen a lot worse highlight reels , Niasse springs to mind & we spunked 13mil on him.

What a player

 

[tsubaki]

Go nuts, I have talked about him often over the last 5 years when people have screamed for him to be in the first side: https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/search/574246/?q=simms&c[users]=Nymzee&o=date

Said from the beginning: he's big, can finish, that's about it.

Everton Youth Teams Thread

EVERTON U18S TEAM v Newcastle ko 1pm-we have a 1 point lead going into todays games at the top-but Liverpool are 3 up at ht,meaning we need to win to stay there,while those around us lead,or won WEre you there BL, or did you get th elist from online somewhere? If you were, what did you...

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Everton Youth Teams Thread

Nice to be still classed as giants.:) https://www.psv.nl/english-psv/news/article/barcelona-chivas-and-everton-take-part-in-2019-otten-cup.htm Barcelona, Chivas and Everton take part in 2019 Otten Cup date: 03-02-2019 13:00 The Otten Cup returns to Eindhoven in 2019 after a one-year...

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Everton Youth Teams Thread

I know it's only u18s but this Simms seems like a monster. Hes auditioning for a part in the remake incredible hulk soon lol

www.grandoldteam.com

Everton Youth Teams Thread

At 19 DCL had already played in the Sheff Utd first team, a loan at staylybridge & on the brink of his Everton debut. Moise Kean had played a year on loan in serie A & being used in the Juve first team squad by Simms' age. Richarlison had played a full season in Serie B in brazil & a full season...

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Homepage Article - Ellis Simms Joins Blackpool

Could have had a hat trick there too , so obviously MOTM , hope we get some extra money for it. Poor defending though for his goals, but itll give him even more confidence.

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This is true but often we were picking people who were big and couldn't finish.