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English managers
- Thread starter JLW
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Not based on the fact that English managers have that tiny prerequisite of being from England then? lol
Debunkology
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Which is why I was making the point that EPL has the pick of world class managers from around the world. They are competing with the very best in the world.
Just like theres a list of great managers who aren't English who've managed in England haven't won it. But have had outstanding careers.
Likewise, English have been successful aboard since last time an English manager won the English league.
So they're competing with the very best in the world in the allegedly best league in the world and being mostly garbage, does that not mean they're just not very good?
English managers success abroad though lol lol
Interested to see the next step for William Still. Young manager at Reims
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No, I think it just means they are not the best in the league since there are many levels between best and garbage. Not everything has to be an extreme at one end or the other.
It is difficult for English managers as they are competing against some of the very best coaches in the world, but the premier league pays the best wages, so it is also difficult to convince a good english coach to go abroad and possibly win league titles in lesser leagues, but only earn 20% of what they could earn with a mid table epl team, or even a top championship team.
Yeah it's defo money and not knowing how the league works or having to Joey Barton a second language.
Can't people just admit that yeah, there's a few good ones, but the majority are crap and why they're not at the top level and probably never will be. Even the ones that are suffer from Brexit football syndrome anyway.
Debunkology
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You know you laugh at the idea that English managers have had any success abroad and Roy Hodgson has been used as an example in this thread of being "cwap". But he's won 9 league titles abroad. He's revered in Sweden as a top quality manager.
Like WA Toffee says, "not everything has to be extreme at one end or the other"
Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea have been the big four in the Premier League era, with the highest resources that gives them an advantage over the others. Arsenal and Man Utd haven't chosen a permanent English manager since the 80s. Liverpool and Chelsea have overwhelmingly chosen foreign coaches within the Premier League period.
Even though English managers notoriously don't go abroad, it hasn't stopped them wining stuff with foreign clubs in the Premier League era, like the European Cup Winners Cup, Copa Del Rey, Copa De Espana, Primeira Divisao, Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira, Eredivisie, Ziraat Türkiye Kupası, Super Liga, Danish Super Cup, etc
And Graham Potter is "crap" all of a sudden, but he took a tiny Swedish club up from the fourth tier to the top flight for the first time in their history, winning the cup and qualifying for Europe on the way. He's still a good coach, he had a bad stint at Chelsea, but he's not crap.
Loving the quick googlefu that happened here.
They're just not very good mate, that's the truth of it. Soz.
Debunkology
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Fixed your post mate.
Pretty much a fact mate, you've pretty much just broken instead of fixing it.
Big Sams Undies
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Frank Lampard not crap? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Debunkology
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Bit egotistical to think your opinions are facts. But whatever
Isn't this what you're doing as well? lol
Also they fail the eye and results test(s), so it's not even an opinion.
English managers are stuck in the 90s.
Billy Dean
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I do think Potter will be back. Had a very difficult time at Chelsea but there were mitigating circumstances. He’d done well in every previous job
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