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Everton 0-1 Queens Park Rangers. Saturday 20th August @ 15.00.

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Howard

Neville
Jagielka
Distin
Baines

Barkley
Fellaini
Arteta
Osman

Cahill
Saha

I think we'll see something like that, 2-1 Everton. Arteta and Saha with the goals.
 
ToxtethBlue said:
Howard

Neville
Jagielka
Distin
Baines

Barkley
Fellaini
Arteta
Osman

Cahill
Saha

I think we'll see something like that, 2-1 Everton. Arteta and Saha with the goals.
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Doesn't it depress you though that we'll probably use only one true striker at home to a newly promoted side? Bearing in mind we will have 0 pace as well.
 
Not really, I consider Cahill a forward. It wouldn't be my favoured eleven, but that's what I think Moyes will go for. As long as there's enough creativity in midfield, I can accept the likes of Cahill being selected. Especially Barkley, who should start.
 
ToxtethBlue said:
Not really, I consider Cahill a forward. It wouldn't be my favoured eleven, but that's what I think Moyes will go for. As long as there's enough creativity in midfield, I can accept the likes of Cahill being selected. Especially Barkley, who should start.
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Won't work like that though will it.

Cahill might hang around in the penalty area trying to get on the end of crosses and loose balls but he's not a forward in the traditional 4-4-2 type way.

He will spend a lot of the game in midfield rather than working as a pair with Saha.

Can you see that line up breaking down a stubborn 10 man QPR defence without a little bit of luck coming our way?
 

deathbyropeandglass said:
Won't work like that though will it.

Cahill might hang around in the penalty area trying to get on the end of crosses and loose balls but he's not a forward in the traditional 4-4-2 type way.

He will spend a lot of the game in midfield rather than working as a pair with Saha.

Can you see that line up breaking down a stubborn 10 man QPR defence without a little bit of luck coming our way?
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This is what I mean. If we had a Landon Donovan type to give us something on the right, with Baines on the left, then I'd fancy our chances better. But without Beckford harrying defences up top and without this pace in the team we're slow and predictable. Crucially, we're easy to defend against.
 
RadioFriendlyUnitShifter said:
This is what I mean. If we had a Landon Donovan type to give us something on the right, with Baines on the left, then I'd fancy our chances better. But without Beckford harrying defences up top and without this pace in the team we're slow and predictable. Crucially, we're easy to defend against.
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Only thing which means i wouldn't mind that line up is Barkley.

He will be a surprise package and keen to impress, plus he looked like he had a good creative streak in him in pre season with a willingness to try things rather than a simple pass.

Of course he'll be on the bench and Anichebe will start wide right.
 
deathbyropeandglass said:
Won't work like that though will it.

Cahill might hang around in the penalty area trying to get on the end of crosses and loose balls but he's not a forward in the traditional 4-4-2 type way.

He will spend a lot of the game in midfield rather than working as a pair with Saha.

Can you see that line up breaking down a stubborn 10 man QPR defence without a little bit of luck coming our way?
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That depends on how the game pans out, really. If QPR somehow put us on the back foot and dominate our midfield then he will drop back, naturally, and I'd expect the same from any player in that position. I think that's very unlikely though, given the strength of our midfield, so he'd be able to occupy his usual role, as a second striker.

Will he be expected to close down the oppositions defensive midfielder and drop into midfield every now and then? Ofcourse, but that's an important part of the role. Saha occupied very similar space when he played alongside Beckford, he just played the role with a completely different style, which was very impressive and gave us something different. But the formation was basically the same. I don't have a problem with that.

If we've got enough creativity behind Saha and Cahill, I can see us breaking them down.
 
deathbyropeandglass said:
Only thing which means i wouldn't mind that line up is Barkley.

He will be a surprise package and keen to impress, plus he looked like he had a good creative streak in him in pre season with a willingness to try things rather than a simple pass.

Of course he'll be on the bench and Anichebe will start wide right.
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I hope not. If Barkley can shine against Villareal he can shine against QPR!
 
Heart says Everton 3-0 QPR
Head says 0-0 draw with no passion what so ever.

If i could have my own team, id pair up Vellios and Saha tbh, and play Barkley, these are bottom of the table after all...

Howard

Neville
Jagielka
Distin
Baines

Barkley
Fellaini
Arteta
Cahill

Vellios
Saha
 

Once again RFUS I love your sig pic thingy.

As for the match, come on you blues. Lets see some attacking football. Maybe a cheeky 4-4-2? Go crazy? Start Barkley Moyes you know you wanna.
 
ToxtethBlue said:
That depends on how the game pans out, really. If QPR somehow put us on the back foot and dominate our midfield then he will drop back, naturally, and I'd expect the same from any player in that position. I think that's very unlikely though, given the strength of our midfield, so he'd be able to occupy his usual role, as a second striker.

Will he be expected to close down the oppositions defensive midfielder and drop into midfield every now and then? Ofcourse, but that's an important part of the role. Saha occupied very similar space when he played alongside Beckford, he just played the role with a completely different style, which was very impressive and gave us something different. But the formation was basically the same. I don't have a problem with that.

If we've got enough creativity behind Saha and Cahill, I can see us breaking them down.
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Yeah Cahill and Saha can play the same role but in complelty different ways. Cahill suits the more defensive minded nick a goal version and Saha suits the attack and outplay the opponents version.

I know which i'd prefer at home to a newly promoted team who just got hammered 0-4 at home.

And the IF we have enough creativty behind Cahill and Saha is a very big if, as we saw last year we struggle with ideas and inventiveness from midfield against teams who come for a point.
 

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