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In that last season especially we played some really nice stuff
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £35m
I honestly think he will only use the threat of an Everton move to get more leverage over the Dildo Bros. West Ham is a blank slate, whereas he would be operating under Brands here. Given Moyes seems to be better at Brands' job than Brands, I don't see how it would work.
efcste97
Player Valuation: £10m
He'll be stupid to leave to join us, he's done a fantastic job with West Ham, I just don't want any ex manager back. I hope we get a manager in who has a clear idea and identity, that is something we haven't had since Moyes really.
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
Unsworth and Ferguson were only around for his first 2/3 seasons, after which we integrated players who could play it around the deck like Arteta and Pienaar, mixing it up with pacey or powerful strikers like Johnson and Yakubu. He then blended the two styles together when Fellaini came in
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £35m
Didn’t we sell Duncan to Newcastle back then as well?
This is our identity
Great article. I don’t want Moyes but I think the sentiment “familiarity breeds contempt” is spot on; the likes of Nuno and Potter get instantly sneered at because we’ve seen their failings at PL level. Sexy, foreign coaches are wished for instead, even though I’m sure if we fine-toothed combed their history we’d find similar blips and issues.
I also agree with the assertion that the manager needs to leave the transfers to Brands. I think it’s either all in the manager’s hands or all in Brands’s; we’ve just signed Marcel up to a new contract so I think that’s that when it comes to who has the say.
I also agree with the assertion that the manager needs to leave the transfers to Brands. I think it’s either all in the manager’s hands or all in Brands’s; we’ve just signed Marcel up to a new contract so I think that’s that when it comes to who has the say.
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £35m
I don’t want Moyes back. Nothing against him but I don't want a manager like any of our last few who stand on tbe touchline with all the emotion of a snail. I want craziness, Simeone level lunacy. Somebody to pace the technical area like a caged lion. Somebody to shake these players out of their stupor. I want visible passion and energy.
Glasshalffull
Player Valuation: £10m
God, I've read so much abject drivel on this thread. Just wish I wasn't so blotto, so I could remember it all.
Firstly, 'never go back'. I'd happily go back to the bar for another Guinness after having had a Scotch or two as a change. The girl I passed up 40 years ago is a constant torment to me. 'Never go back' is just a mindless mantra for those with nothing actually useful to churn out.
Secondly, the 'knife to a gunfight' thing was the absolute truth. I know there is a substantial, not to say majoritorial, body of fans who feel this was some sort of sacrilege, but they're simply delusional. Facts don't lie.
Thirdly, Moyes manifestly didn't play us like a fiddle. He did his level best for a long time, with a seasonal budget of 87p. If any of us were given the job of restoring a veteran Ferrari on 87p, and then (after a lorra years trying with the old Ferrari), were offered a job on a top Formula 1 team, then we'd definitely take it, unless emotionally chained to the Ferrari, which Moyes wasn't.
Sure there's another bottle of wine around here, somewhere.........
Firstly, 'never go back'. I'd happily go back to the bar for another Guinness after having had a Scotch or two as a change. The girl I passed up 40 years ago is a constant torment to me. 'Never go back' is just a mindless mantra for those with nothing actually useful to churn out.
Secondly, the 'knife to a gunfight' thing was the absolute truth. I know there is a substantial, not to say majoritorial, body of fans who feel this was some sort of sacrilege, but they're simply delusional. Facts don't lie.
Thirdly, Moyes manifestly didn't play us like a fiddle. He did his level best for a long time, with a seasonal budget of 87p. If any of us were given the job of restoring a veteran Ferrari on 87p, and then (after a lorra years trying with the old Ferrari), were offered a job on a top Formula 1 team, then we'd definitely take it, unless emotionally chained to the Ferrari, which Moyes wasn't.
Sure there's another bottle of wine around here, somewhere.........
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
No, Agent Johnson sold Ferguson to Newcastle a couple of months into Smith’s reign in 1998, he had been back at the club for nearly 2 years when Moyes took over and retired at the end of Moyes’ 4th season
I honestly think that's a terrible article that's all over the place. For example, Moyes' "identity" was to scream about bringing knives to gunfights, constantly lower expectations to preserve his own reputation. He is a bad choice.
And if you are accepting mediocrity, then you are... accepting mediocrity. It doesn't need to go 'in the bin' as a phrase; it's simply an acknowledgement of fact. If you think identifying mediocrity is a bad thing, then you are part of the problem.
But hey, fair enough for writing it anyway.
And if you are accepting mediocrity, then you are... accepting mediocrity. It doesn't need to go 'in the bin' as a phrase; it's simply an acknowledgement of fact. If you think identifying mediocrity is a bad thing, then you are part of the problem.
But hey, fair enough for writing it anyway.
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £35m
Man - time flies!
anton66
Player Valuation: £50m
Not only did he play down expectations he told his side to expect a defeat and if anything else happened was a bonus. Hence no wins.
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