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Everton January 2022 Transfer Thread

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Plays in quite a rubbish side TBF... It would be interesting to see his chances created stats.

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Irrelevant really though because we cant afford him
 
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Kev The Rat said:
I’m not going to bother reposting links which confirm that employers can sack employees prior to conviction in the courts
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Dismissal: your rights​

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  1. Overview
  2. Reasons you can be dismissed
  3. Unfair and constructive dismissal
  4. What to do if you're dismissed

Reasons you can be dismissed​

There are some situations when your employer can dismiss you fairly.

Not being able to do your job properly​

You may not be able to do your job properly if, for example, you:
  • have not been able to keep up with important changes to your job - for example, a new computer system
  • cannot get along with your colleagues
Before taking any action, your employer should:
  • follow disciplinary procedures - for example, warn you that your work is not satisfactory
  • give you a chance to improve - for example, by training you

Illness​

You can be dismissed if you have a persistent or long-term illness that makes it impossible for you to do your job.
Before taking any action, your employer should:
  • look for ways to support you - for example, considering whether the job itself is making you sick and needs changing
  • give you reasonable time to recover from your illness
If you have a disability (which may include long-term illness), your employer has a legal duty to support disability in the workplace.
Dismissal because of a disability may be unlawful discrimination.

Redundancy​

Redundancy is a form of dismissal and is fair in most cases.
If the reason you are selected for redundancy is unfair then you will have been unfairly dismissed.

Summary dismissal​

You can be dismissed for ‘gross misconduct’ without your employer going through the normal disciplinary procedures. This can happen if, for example, you’re violent towards a colleague, customer or property.
Your employer should always investigate the circumstances before making a dismissal, even in possible gross misconduct cases.

A ‘statutory restriction’​

You can be dismissed if continuing to employ you would break the law - for example, if you’re a driver in a lorry firm and you lose your driving licence.

It’s impossible to carry on employing you​

If it’s impossible to carry on employing you, it’s likely to be fair. For example, if a factory burns down and it’s no longer possible to employ anyone.

A ‘substantial reason’​

You may be dismissed fairly if, for example:
  • you unreasonably refuse to accept a company reorganisation that changes your employment terms
  • you’re sent to prison
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Reasons you can be dismissed​

There are some situations when your employer can dismiss you fairly.

Not being able to do your job properly​

You may not be able to do your job properly if, for example, you:
  • have not been able to keep up with important changes to your job - for example, a new computer system
  • cannot get along with your colleagues
Before taking any action, your employer should:
  • follow disciplinary procedures - for example, warn you that your work is not satisfactory
  • give you a chance to improve - for example, by training you

Illness​

You can be dismissed if you have a persistent or long-term illness that makes it impossible for you to do your job.
Before taking any action, your employer should:
  • look for ways to support you - for example, considering whether the job itself is making you sick and needs changing
  • give you reasonable time to recover from your illness
If you have a disability (which may include long-term illness), your employer has a legal duty to support disability in the workplace.
Dismissal because of a disability may be unlawful discrimination.

Redundancy​

Redundancy is a form of dismissal and is fair in most cases.
If the reason you are selected for redundancy is unfair then you will have been unfairly dismissed.

Summary dismissal​

You can be dismissed for ‘gross misconduct’ without your employer going through the normal disciplinary procedures. This can happen if, for example, you’re violent towards a colleague, customer or property.
Your employer should always investigate the circumstances before making a dismissal, even in possible gross misconduct cases.

A ‘statutory restriction’​

You can be dismissed if continuing to employ you would break the law - for example, if you’re a driver in a lorry firm and you lose your driving licence.

It’s impossible to carry on employing you​

If it’s impossible to carry on employing you, it’s likely to be fair. For example, if a factory burns down and it’s no longer possible to employ anyone.

A ‘substantial reason’​

You may be dismissed fairly if, for example:
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At previous workplaces I know of people who have been sacked after having been arrested and charged.

A lot depends on the nature of the allegations.

Child sex allegations for example would be looked on very dimly.
 

Ralphie Boy said:
Why would any insurance company who have people specifically employed to not pay out payout to save the face of club and player?

unfortunately/fortunately we have chosen not to play him and therefore have to take the hit.
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Well it will be in the terms of any agreement, so it wont really be a case of what they would or wouldn't do. If a player is found guilty, expect them to try and claim damages from the player, and win.
 
NeilA1878 said:
What @catcherintherye says seems dead on, see this... https://www.swinburnemaddison.co.uk...ith-a-criminal-offence-but-not-yet-convicted/
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Thanks mate.

I mean I don't know 100% by any means, but I would be very surprised if the club were paying the wages.

If he is not charged/found guilty, then it may be the club would be liable to back pay. Indeed that may be part of any agreement.

This is very generic though, and not about any specific case, and is purely a hypothetical scenario.

I seem to remember the ECB not paying Stokes while he was suspended after being charged for a criminal offence.
 
Bedfordblue said:
Has he been dismissed then? Thanks for clearing that up, I was under the impression he’s currently suspended. Hope he doesn’t do Everton for wrongful dismissal per the case you’ve used as an example :Blink:
Interestingly the article also makes a case for suspension on full pay…
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Nobody has been dismissed.

But the case lays out clearly, where a criminal investigation is being undertaken, an employer has the right to suspend, and does not have to pay the full amount, or indeed any wages.

If a club wanted to not pay an employee their salary, due to a criminal investigation then they are within their rights to do so. They are the facts. But as you say, it doesn't automatically mean they have to adopt them.
 
ForeverEverton said:
I know he is probably way beyond our means but I like St Maximin, that would complete our frontline in a 4-2-3-1, that would be formidable....

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Gray - Richy - St Maximin​
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Mate, listen to the Newcastle pod casts with true Geordie on, always good to know we aren’t the worst run club in the league, plus they hate St Maxim, names like wage thief are used
 

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