Everton January 2022 Transfer Thread

[edge]

So we were allowed to spend minus £35m this January - and we've seemingly already spent another £32m

So where is the £67m shortfall going to be made up?

Digne, Holgate, and I suspect the likes of Delph , Kenny, possibly Mina as well going.

 

[navidson]

Digne, Holgate, and I suspect the likes of Delph , Kenny, possibly Mina as well going.

This month?

 

[jamieni]

This month?

Digne probably this month at least. I’d imagine the others named would be more likely to go in summer.

 

[navidson]

Digne probably this month at least. I’d imagine the others named would be more likely to go in summer.

So we're allowed to temporarily break Premier League sustainability rules?

 

[Bluewolf]

So we were allowed to spend minus £35m this January - and we've seemingly already spent another £32m

So where is the £67m shortfall going to be made up?

Are you referring to that fourfourtwo picture?

I thought it was a joke, how are they supposed to know the complete accounts of all 20 teams.

Looked like complete guess work to me.

 

[Zatara]

No, I actually think a lot of other people do wish we were though just to prove some agendas.

Gray, Mykolenko, Patterson as his first signings he’s spent a fee on. All young quick players with attacking ability as well. It’s a shame when facts don’t fit agendas.

Mykolenko/Gray
Patterson/Gordon

Both flanks have players with positive profiles now.

Hopefully a lot of outs and a few ins to fix the central areas.

Benitez signed off on Patterson in the summer mate - we bid £5m for him. Would have gone up to £8m but that's all we had available because at that stage James hadn't gone and the Kean deal wasn't confirmed either.

I think we're overpaying for the lad but it's a good long-term signing.

I reckon it was always pretty likely we'd go back in for Patterson. Consider that against AMN, who was the option on loan for us. Benitez didn't want anything but a loan for him (which is fair enough) and there was never any talk of us going back in for him in January.

As I said in my other post, the only downside to the Mykolenko deal for me is the way the Digne situation has been handled. What Benitez did the other day was a travesty. Not against the player himself, he's a big boy on a lot of money, but it cost the team, for the sake of making a point (which was I'm going to put you on the bench but not bring you on when it's clear you're needed, and actually play a system that would allow your natural game to show). And that's a disgrace. From any manager. But Benitez has form for it.

The issue with doing stuff like that is it weakens our bargaining power completely when it comes to clubs taking Digne. We should be looking at £30m to sell a player of his quality in the middle of the season, had everything been handled correctly. Instead we'll be lucky to get any obligation to buy.

If Digne played against Brighton and suffered a long term injury.

What happens to the FFP levels then if the plan is to sell?

So we were allowed to spend minus £35m this January - and we've seemingly already spent another £32m

So where is the £67m shortfall going to be made up?

We've spent about £5.5mil.

12mil + 13mil (approx) = £25mil

£25mil ÷ 4.5 = £5.5mil

 

[navidson]

Are you referring to that fourfourtwo picture?

I thought it was a joke, how are they supposed to know the complete accounts of all 20 teams.

Looked like complete guess work to me.

Don't all clubs have to publish their yearly accounts?

 

[Yarrgh]

Thats not how Turkish teams work.
They will rinse as much as they can out of it!
And so they should

Maybe get in a Turkish DoF?

 

[blulouie]

Unfortunately, I think both were only linked AFTER rb joined

Carlo spoke to Kiev last year about Myko.

 

[Rich1878]

I was going man for man that were on the pitch ,

Agh ok . Digne wasn't on the pitch

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

So we were allowed to spend minus £35m this January - and we've seemingly already spent another £32m

So where is the £67m shortfall going to be made up?

Assuming both lads are on 4.5 year deals, the fees plus half a season’s wages will probably be about a £10m hit to our accounts this year. I’d assume we’ve made that back in the little bits of business we’ve done since summer - Bernard, James, Kean loan fee, etc.

Whatever we get for Digne will eat into the £35m loss.

 

[Eggs]

Something you have absolutely NO evidence to suggest is the case.

….I don’t, it’s just a few posters suggest there was interest in Patterson during Ancelotti’s regime. i don’t pretend to know, we all recognise your absolute authority when it comes to Benitez signings;

 

[toffee-L]

Benitez signed off on Patterson in the summer mate - we bid £5m for him. Would have gone up to £8m but that's all we had available because at that stage James hadn't gone and the Kean deal wasn't confirmed either.

I think we're overpaying for the lad but it's a good long-term signing.

I reckon it was always pretty likely we'd go back in for Patterson. Consider that against AMN, who was the option on loan for us. Benitez didn't want anything but a loan for him (which is fair enough) and there was never any talk of us going back in for him in January.

As I said in my other post, the only downside to the Mykolenko deal for me is the way the Digne situation has been handled. What Benitez did the other day was a travesty. Not against the player himself, he's a big boy on a lot of money, but it cost the team, for the sake of making a point (which was I'm going to put you on the bench but not bring you on when it's clear you're needed, and actually play a system that would allow your natural game to show). And that's a disgrace. From any manager. But Benitez has form for it.

The issue with doing stuff like that is it weakens our bargaining power completely when it comes to clubs taking Digne. We should be looking at £30m to sell a player of his quality in the middle of the season, had everything been handled correctly. Instead we'll be lucky to get any obligation to buy.

The Digne situation is bizarre, but my theory (based on nothing) is that the bust up could possibly just be due to Benitez informing Digne that we are selling him in order to do our own business. Digne, who has recently signed a new contract and presumably very settled here with his family threw a barney and the two fell out, with Benitez's ego going into overdrive before the Chelsea game. I think Digne has probably come around to the idea of leaving now and maybe going somewhere else for European football or more money and the two are probably cordial now, with Digne content to sit on the bench for emergencies only if any other defenders get injured so he doesn't get injured himself whilst he waits for a move.

As for our bargaining power, people are placing too much emphasis on this. The market it what is, a player is only ever worth what somebody else is prepared to pay. If the fall out cuts the starting price in the minds of other clubs, theoretically more clubs should be interested at a lower price which will drive the price back up. Digne hasn't looked anything like a £30m player in a long time, and I would guess that the only club stupid enough to pay that kind of money for him are sadly the one who already employs him.

It's clear we have to sell to buy, and when you look at our squad, Digne makes sense to be the first sacrificial lamb. Benitez will regret not forcing this issue last summer so he could have got his new full backs in then but he was probably told by people at the club that Digne was an incredibly important player so he persisted with him. Digne's own terrible form since the summer along with the apocalypse going on in our right back spot will have definitely swayed his mind since.

I'm happy with the two players coming in, it's a shame that it has to end this way for Digne at Everton as he's a player I like but this is a necessary step for longer term growth. As for Benitez, well we should be thankful that either the club appear to be unwilling to allow him to stock the squad with anymore of his ageing favourites or that he has taken that decision of his own accord. Either way, his replacement (hopefully that happens sooner rather than later) has two very highly rated young players to develop which is a strategy that clown Marcel Brands should have been looking to implement during his three and half years here.

 

[Theoneandonly]

So we're allowed to temporarily break Premier League sustainability rules?

We haven't and we have until the summer to balance the books.

Mykolenko upfront cost was in the region of 4.5mil. We offered Rangers 7.5 mil upfront for Patterson.

 

[blulouie]

The possibility of confusion over signings once the Dutch catastrophe was booted out...at Benitez behest...is nil.

The same people doing Benitez down are panic stricken that the new signings will turn out successes and therefore be a plus for Benitez AND help him secure his position as manager if the team results pick up with them playing.

There's a hell of a lot of hypocrisy.

But you cant wait for Patterson to fail , youve been banging that drum since the summer.

Hypocrisy.....meh.