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Everton January 2022 Transfer Thread

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WA Toffee said:
which 2 haven't played for the first team?

But whether it is 5 or 7, it is fanciful at best to suggest any manager would sell them and buy a bunch of kids and expect to still be in a job.
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Davies and Holgate have played in the first team but even with our current injury crisis they are getting cameo appearances at best. it's a stretch to call them first team players. Unfortunately, Iwobi is one of our first team players and I think that, more than anything else, illustrates how thin our squad is and is why we can't sell a raft of first team players, no matter who we replace them with. Thankfully, Sigurdsson, Tosun, Delph and Kenny will be on their bikes this summer (or maybe even in Jan if we're lucky) and, as they are also not first team players currently, will shrink our wage bill substantially without us having to sell too many other players (we're obviously going to sell Richarlison, DCL or both next summer, which is a great shame) and without affecting our playing options. The first team squad is a mess, as usual.
 
roy vernon said:
Yes he's said that a couple of times, but, always with the caveat that they are limited as to how much they can spend due to financial regulations.
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Yes but that will change just by getting rid of our free transfers. Saves us 40mil add to probably 30mil in wages saved this summer.
Hopefully we can get kean sold and a few others on top.

And the way transfers can be done over length of contracts I expect a few quality players brought in. Yes will still may do a loan and a cheap deal.

A few ifs involved. But I’m always glass half full when it comes to our owners
 
Carloblues said:
I think we would want more, but doesn't mean teams would offer more.

Realistically who's he going to for that price given his form over the last season or so?
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Well... Brighton sold Ben White for 50m, so who knows. I just don't(want to) believe we will accept anything less than 70-75, hopefully more
 

Stephenlloyd said:
Yes but that will change just by getting rid of our free transfers. Saves us 40mil add to probably 30mil in wages saved this summer.
Hopefully we can get kean sold and a few others on top.

And the way transfers can be done over length of contracts I expect a few quality players brought in. Yes will still may do a loan and a cheap deal.

A few ifs involved. But I’m always glass half full when it comes to our owners
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The problem goes a bit deeper than that though. I think we are allowed to lose 105 million in a 3 year period i believe we are about 80million over that. I'm not that well up on these matters but I'm sure one of the younger lads can put it straight.
I don't think it's a problem which will disappear with a few free transfer fees and a few hundred thousand off the wage bill. I'm sure I read that it will take us a couple of years to get to where we should be. I believe we are losing 2 million a week at the moment.
 
bcblue1878 said:
Dear god, I nearly fell off the chair then - first time I read that all I saw was sell Davies for £50-£60m, I thought that was a bit over optimistic even for you!
The whole idea of “if we sold etc etc” is pie in the sky stuff, as we have seen over the past 5 or 6 years with some of the dross that’s unfortunately still here - if they don’t want to go they don’t go and we can’t just sell them!
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I agree, when it comes down to our subs or fringe players just replace the £10/20m predicted price with free/loan and that’s more accurate for us.
 
Zatara said:
The 'net spend' on transfer ins/out in terms of fees only is (and im being generous here) circa £250mil in 6 years under Moshiri.

Thats around £42mil a year which really is nothing as large as some posters and the media claim.

If you are right @catcherintherye and our spending is 12th since Brands took over then i am not surprised at all and imagine we may even drop lower in the next 12months.

What I would be doing between now and the summer is doing my best to lock in the following players:

Pickford: Expires 2024--Extend to 2027
Age at end of new contract: 33

Godfrey: Expires 2025--Extend to 2027
Age at end of new contract: 29

Mina: Expires 2023--Extend to 2027
Age at end of new contract: 32

Digne: Expires 2025
Age at end of current contract: 32

Doucoure: Expires 2023--Extend to 2025
Age at end of new contract: 32

Allan: Expires 2023--Extend to 2024
Age at end of new contract: 33

Gray: Expires 2024--Extend to 2026
Age at end of new contract: 30

Richarlison: Expires 2024--Extend to 2027
Age at end of new contract: 30

DCL: Expires 2025--Extend to 2027
Age at end of new contract: 30


If we can extend contracts then it also extends our FFP/profit and sustainability on the books for their transfer fees -- this opens up more funds to use on signing players.


Clearly some of those players have club options for another year and others wont simply agree to the extension length or even an extension at all.


Pickford
??? Mina Godfrey Digne
Doucoure Allan
??? Richarlison Gray
DCL
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Thats a strong 9/11 players and if we have any sense we would be doing our best to get them signed up.

Moving forward...

Right back:
Mazraoui from Ajax on a precontract in Jan
Patterson/Ramsey from Scotland
Aarons from Norwich
Dodo from Shakhtar
Livramento from Southampton
Singo from Torino


Right Wing:
Chukwueze/Tsyganov's deals end in 2023
Antony from Ajax
Kulusevski from Juventus
Pino from Villareal
Sarr from Watford
Doku from Rennes
Tete from Shakhtar
Madueke from PSV


Of course some of these players will be cheap/free while others will be expensive.

We should be able to use this average £42mil spend and bring in two of these players to 'complete our first 11'.

We have some young players now on the books like: Dobbin, Onyango, Branthwaite, Gordon, Nkounkou. If considered good enough, 11 players becomes 16 and hopefully one or two more come through to pad the squad.

Outside the 9 'senior' players any of the others should be considered available for transfer and we should actively be trying to move them on.

Use the funds on signing u23 aged high potential players and build a second 11 behind the senior who are capable of developing into starters.

We should be building around the quality that we have and being more ruthless in moving players on that arent top quality.




TLDR:
Extend senior players contracts
Sell/move on seniors who arent 1st choice
Look to sign/develop top u23 players
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The problem is the lack of player sales to boost the net spend.
Not moving players on has negated all the investment.
 
roy vernon said:
The problem goes a bit deeper than that though. I think we are allowed to lose 105 million in a 3 year period i believe we are about 80million over that. I'm not that well up on these matters but I'm sure one of the younger lads can put it straight.
I don't think it's a problem which will disappear with a few free transfer fees and a few hundred thousand off the wage bill. I'm sure I read that it will take us a couple of years to get to where we should be. I believe we are losing 2 million a week at the moment.
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I’m not that clued up on these things either. As for a few hundred thousands off the wage bill, more like about 40mil
 

Carloblues said:
Like the enthusiasm but 300m????

Richy and DCL, would get about 120 for the pair, I don't think anyone would pay what we would want to sell anyway. Mina only has a year or two left on his contract so you'll be lucky to get 30m back on him ( silly selling our best defender )

So say 150m at a stretch for those.

You'll be lucky to get 40m for all of Davies/iwobi/Keane and holgate
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If you think selling Richarlison and DCL would bring only 120m in you must have failed GCSE maths.

DCL - English, young, 19 goals, good personality, 80m east.

richarlsion - 24, fully fledged Brazilian international, good personality, 80m.

160m any day of the week.
 
Bob Elstone said:
If you think selling Richarlison and DCL would bring only 120m in you must have failed GCSE maths.

DCL - English, young, 19 goals, good personality, 80m east.

richarlsion - 24, fully fledged Brazilian international, good personality, 80m.

160m any day of the week.
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You might want to read my other posts sausage, I'm not saying they aren't worth more than 60m each or we don't value them at more than 60m each, but it's very unlikely we would sell them at 80m each.
 
Zatara said:
If we sold Keane, Holgate, Iwobi, Davies for £50-60mil then Richarlison, Mina and DCL were to go as well we'd be looking at £260-300mil.

Lets say we then spent that in building a young team in summers 2022 and 2023. By 2024 we would also be free of FFP issues and could spend another £200mil+.

Id rather we held onto the 9 players i mentioned in an earlier post and sold anyone/everyone else.

But it could be good to start afresh.
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Keep saying this mate, but guess what he will be here for a while longer, at least another couple of years

Cant see them also taking a loss against Iwobi either, given where we are in profit and sustainability in the Premier League

The only one likely to go is Holgate
 

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