Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

[MikeH72]

James Rodriguez's output that season was far more superior to

Fabian Delph (100k a week?)
Josh King (60k a week?)
J P Gbamin (70k a week?)
Theo Walcott (100k a week?)
Cenk Tosun (80k a week)

Thats before i even factor in the players that did play that season but didnt contribute as much

The fact that we had all of those useless players on the books is exactly the reason why we couldn’t afford the luxury of James. Thank you mate.

 

[NeilMorepies]

Ok. Only one of us here has provided anything concrete outside of “but I liked him ”. It’s all there in the accounts, you can read them for yourself if you ever feel so inclined my good old friend @Death. Enjoy your Sunday.

No you have pointed out that we paid him. And paid him well.

I pointed out that it’s not that simple.

 

[allen]

We will destroy the planet before the droids stop us

But in topic I would like a player please

The best bet we have of avoiding a terminator apocalypse is the machines getting their facts wrong, and producing an army of 2cm high robots.

 

[MACCA75]

Personally thought it was scandalous that Benitez forced out our 2 most creative players in James and Digne and we haven’t recovered since.

Digne came on at half time v Arsenal yesterday and in 15 minutes got more Prem assists than Myko has in 3 years.

 

[MikeH72]

No you have pointed out that we paid him. And paid him well.

I pointed out that it’s not that simple.

The wage to turnover ratio was 94% as pointed out in that article. Wage to turnover factors in all income. So clearly, based on our turnover we could not afford him.

 

[MikeH72]

Personally thought it was scandalous that Benitez forced out our 2 most creative players in James and Digne and we haven’t recovered since.

Digne came on at half time v Arsenal yesterday and in 15 minutes got more Prem assists than Myko has in 3 years.

Benitez being appointed in the first place was the darkest day in the club’s history. However, we couldn’t afford James before he was appointed and couldn’t have afforded him if he’d never been appointed. I appreciate this really isn’t what anybody wanted to hear today but I’m afraid it’s time to just swallow the pill and accept it. We’ve got enough financial data available to us at this point.

 

[MACCA75]

Benitez being appointed in the first place was the darkest day in the club’s history. However, we couldn’t afford James before he was appointed and couldn’t have afforded him if he’d never been appointed. I appreciate this really isn’t what anybody wanted to hear today but I’m afraid it’s time to just swallow the pill and accept it.

I think we could have saved that 150k (guessing at that figure tbf) a week in other ways.

 

[Mr Happy]

Benitez being appointed in the first place was the darkest day in the club’s history. However, we couldn’t afford James before he was appointed and couldn’t have afforded him if he’d never been appointed. I appreciate this really isn’t what anybody wanted to hear today but I’m afraid it’s time to just swallow the pill and accept it. We’ve got enough financial data available to us at this point.

No. No. No. La la la lah

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Haha. Hear me out though. Our biggest threat is from set pieces right? We struggle to score any other way. Why not get a player that can get a decent ball in the box especially with McNeil's injury record. I don't think it's a bad shout short term.

Am joking pal ha...He'd be perfect for us but obviously the loan slots thing is an issue.

He's also important for Santo game towards the end of games.

 

[MikeH72]

I think we could have saved that 150k a week in other ways.

Well we could, but unfortunately nobody wanted to buy useless crocks like Gbamin, Tosun and Bolasie off us. If it was an ideal world/Football Manager then we could’ve sold all of them for £20m and afforded James. Alas.

 

[NeilMorepies]

The wage to turnover ratio was 94% as pointed out in that article. Wage to turnover factors in all income. So clearly, based on our turnover we could not afford him.

Ok baby steps…
Now factor in all the money he brought into the club, transfer out, sponsorship deals, columbian tv/sales.

James wasn’t a problem because he us made more money than we spent on him. Other player massively were.

Christ, It’s like pulling teeth this…

 

[UltraVires]

Benitez being appointed in the first place was the darkest day in the club’s history. However, we couldn’t afford James before he was appointed and couldn’t have afforded him if he’d never been appointed. I appreciate this really isn’t what anybody wanted to hear today but I’m afraid it’s time to just swallow the pill and accept it.

Well it depends how you want to look at it.

Could we have afforded James at the time? Perhaps not.

Should we have been able to account for James’ salary by making concessions in other areas including any Siggy wages back? Also, yes.

On top of that, we should have signed James and pushed our commercial team to leverage his signing into covering his wages in other ways which we just didn’t do and have never done with any marketable star.

There have been countless transfers around the world that purely on face value don’t seem to make sense but marketing has gone into overdrive to make the numbers add up either in the short term with shirt sales or in the longer term with increased fanbase.

 

[UltraVires]

Ok baby steps…
Now factor in all the money he brought into the club, transfer out, sponsorship deals, columbian tv/sales.

James wasn’t a problem because he us made more money than we spent on him. Other player massively were.

Christ, It’s like pulling teeth this…

You might be right but even then we didn’t maximise this marketability in my view

 

[MikeH72]

Ok baby steps…
Now factor in all the money he brought into the club, transfer out, sponsorship deals, columbian tv/sales.

James wasn’t a problem because he us made more money than we spent on him. Other player massively were.

Christ, It’s like pulling teeth this…

Again, can you provide the evidence of this please? If not just say so, it’s fine.

 

[MikeH72]

Well it depends how you want to look at it.

Could we have afforded James at the time? Perhaps not.

Should we have been able to account for James’ salary by making concessions in other areas including any Siggy wages back? Also, yes.

On top of that, we should have signed James and pushed our commercial team to leverage his signing into covering his wages in other ways which we just didn’t do and have never done with any marketable star.

There have been countless transfers around the world that purely on face value don’t seem to make sense but marketing has gone into overdrive to make the numbers add up either in the short term with shirt sales or in the longer term with increased fanbase.

A smart club would’ve made all of those concessions before signing the highest paid player in its history. Being able to sell players for any decent amount of money would also have helped with that. We signed a player that we could not afford at the time, is the entire point of this two page long debate.