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Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

Zatara said:
I think we really need to be going after these types of players like Rigg and Dibling.

While not 'homegrown' we need to have an English backbone to have some identity as all the great teams have had.

Plus they dont need to adapt to a new environment and it should be a natural step up for them.
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IMO English backbone & 'not a new environment' is a flawed logic - example - Living in Liverpool is totally alien from living in London. trust me (bro lol).

Getting a Norwegian/Dane/Scot/Irish guy in achieves exactly the same/easier transition as getting a Londoner in, but at pennies on the pound.

Motherwell have a 18 year old Midfielder that my dad goes on about... Lennon Miller. Started every game, ended up captain vs Dundee Utd - He'd probably cost about £3m. They also have OAP Ewan WIlson who is a 19 year old defender who's also started every game. I don't know if they'd be good enough, but you can say the same about Champo players... we don't know.

IMO moving from Motherwell to Liverpool is an easier transition than London to Liverpool...
 
Zatara said:
Gravesen, Barkley stick out in my mind for Everton. Every January there are also plenty more, with other clubs picking up players on cheap deals rather than risking greater competition in the summer.
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Both players were wanted by sides such as Madrid & Chelsea at way under market value.

This would be for a 30 year old back up Centre back
 
Simon Buttle said:
We can't afford either player though Zat, you need to be a bit more realistic about potential players mate. Rigg is highly sought after by serious big boys who IF they move we simply can't compete with them, let alone the money aspect side of things. Dibling is a Saints lad through and through and I know for a fact he is happy to plod along with them for the time being. You are looking at another Le Tissier situation there, boy is a real homebird as was shown when he previously went to Chelsea and got homesick. Even if he did the fee on a player like that would be massive, you are asking the club to spend (possibly) the best part of £50m+ on two teenagers, for a club like us that is NOT good recruitment imo.
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One of us is under/over-estimating the impact of the stadium sponsorships and new ownership.

If Southampton are sat in the relegation zone would Dibling still be open to potential championship football? I was told the same about Archie Gray staying and he moved to Spurs (in theory we'd be a better option for gametime). Likewise would Sunderland be open to a deal where Rigg plays out the season with them?

For me, I'd be looking to build a young team over a 3 year period -- I dont see the value of having a new stadium and not having a plan for growth and it seems like Roma had a similar plan for quality players joining in their early 20s while were a way behind that.

Paul Rideout said:
IMO English backbone & 'not a new environment' is a flawed logic - example - Living in Liverpool is totally alien from living in London. trust me (bro lol).

Getting a Norwegian/Dane/Scot/Irish guy in achieves exactly the same/easier transition as getting a Londoner in, but at pennies on the pound.

Motherwell have a 18 year old Midfielder that my dad goes on about... Lennon Miller. Started every game, ended up captain vs Dundee Utd - He'd probably cost about £3m. They also have OAP Ewan WIlson who is a 19 year old defender who's also started every game. I don't know if they'd be good enough, but you can say the same about Champo players... we don't know.

IMO moving from Motherwell to Liverpool is an easier transition than London to Liverpool...
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I think its all about mentality and if players want to stay in their hometowns then they dont have the mentality to be 'the best they can be'. Also if Dibling for example couldnt take to London itself then its a bit different to Liverpool and the surrounding area.

The Scandinavian & Scottish players are typically low cost but also a high risk as they may not be good enough. We can see with Dibling that he's a premier league player and clearly Rigg looks to be on that trajectory as well.

I'd rather we took that approach even if it cost a higher amount for several positions.

Once we have the 'future' mapped out with high potential players in and around the 11 we can then take a few punts on these other types.
 
Zatara said:
One of us is under/over-estimating the impact of the stadium sponsorships and new ownership.

If Southampton are sat in the relegation zone would Dibling still be open to potential championship football? I was told the same about Archie Gray staying and he moved to Spurs (in theory we'd be a better option for gametime). Likewise would Sunderland be open to a deal where Rigg plays out the season with them?

For me, I'd be looking to build a young team over a 3 year period -- I dont see the value of having a new stadium and not having a plan for growth and it seems like Roma had a similar plan for quality players joining in their early 20s while were a way behind that.



I think its all about mentality and if players want to stay in their hometowns then they dont have the mentality to be 'the best they can be'. Also if Dibling for example couldnt take to London itself then its a bit different to Liverpool and the surrounding area.

The Scandinavian & Scottish players are typically low cost but also a high risk as they may not be good enough. We can see with Dibling that he's a premier league player and clearly Rigg looks to be on that trajectory as well.

I'd rather we took that approach even if it cost a higher amount for several positions.

Once we have the 'future' mapped out with high potential players in and around the 11 we can then take a few punts on these other types.
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You are the one that is telling everybody to look at the mess Roma are in, all it takes is one poor managerial appointment, you have no idea that any new manager would want two teenagers in the team anyway.
 
Paul Rideout said:
IMO English backbone & 'not a new environment' is a flawed logic - example - Living in Liverpool is totally alien from living in London. trust me (bro lol).

Getting a Norwegian/Dane/Scot/Irish guy in achieves exactly the same/easier transition as getting a Londoner in, but at pennies on the pound.

Motherwell have a 18 year old Midfielder that my dad goes on about... Lennon Miller. Started every game, ended up captain vs Dundee Utd - He'd probably cost about £3m. They also have OAP Ewan WIlson who is a 19 year old defender who's also started every game. I don't know if they'd be good enough, but you can say the same about Champo players... we don't know.

IMO moving from Motherwell to Liverpool is an easier transition than London to Liverpool...
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Is talent in scotland is all about getting them at the right price so even if didnt work out we still have a sell on value. Even if the lad was a deal up to 10 mill we could still bring in more midfielders instead of a rigg who would cost more and would give us less money to fill other positions
 

Thinking about transfers with the Dychesaurus in charge is totally pointless. He is completely inept at utilising players that other, more qualified minds, have already done the leg work on and bring in for him to use. His treatment of some of the players that he sees as outside his first 11 has been an absolute joke.

I just cannot wait until he is gone. I think there's some real tools here for a better manager to make the most of.
 
Zatara said:
Gravesen, Barkley stick out in my mind for Everton. Every January there are also plenty more, with other clubs picking up players on cheap deals rather than risking greater competition in the summer.





I think we really need to be going after these types of players like Rigg and Dibling.

While not 'homegrown' we need to have an English backbone to have some identity as all the great teams have had.

Plus they dont need to adapt to a new environment and it should be a natural step up for them.
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….seem to recall Iwobi was in his last season and we got £20m but I have probably got that entirely wrong.
 

Eggs said:
….seem to recall Iwobi was in his last season and we got £20m but I have probably got that entirely wrong.
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Indeed that was with one season remaining but the poster disagreed that players can be moved on for small fees in Jan rather than:

A: Selling clubs losing them for free
B: Buying clubs risking competition in summer
 
Simon Buttle said:
Not unless we have the right coach/manager here, I wouldn't want them here under Dyche.
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Yes that goes without saying.

Tell you what, TFG look absolutely clueless with management appointments.

I think if we took 'my' approach we need Potter...otherwise it would need to be Mourinho or another experienced big name.

So much work to be done on transfers in/out.
 
Zatara said:
Indeed that was with one season remaining but the poster disagreed that players can be moved on for small fees in Jan rather than:

A: Selling clubs losing them for free
B: Buying clubs risking competition in summer
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….added point with Keane is whether we’d let him leave given the obvious lack of confidence in O’Brien. I actually think there’s more chance of him being offered another 2 years (whether he accepts it or not is another matter).
 
Eggs said:
….added point with Keane is whether we’d let him leave given the obvious lack of confidence in O’Brien. I actually think there’s more chance of him being offered another 2 years (whether he accepts it or not is another matter).
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I doubt any fringe contracts are being given out before the takeover is completed and the manager is sacked.
 

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