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Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

Jebus_lives said:
But is that the DoF issue or the manager, because nobody was particularly covering themselves in glory under Lampard or Dyche and the DoF doesn't pick the team.

I'd also say, Young has contributed a lot, so has Harrison.

People are bemoaning the lack of quality in the squad and the need to use players like Doucoure - who nobody else wants and is on very high wages. If we can't sell that type of player we wait for contracts to expire, sell young players or our best players (which we have done) which means we lack funds to improve and must then find sellable assets at lower value than we've just sold (in a crowded market and with an unattractive offer - relegation and Dycheball).

It's unrealistic to expect that change to happen quickly and easily. Unless there is something I'm missing about our situation that would allow us to attract players, add more quality or depth?
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There’s all sorts of reasons why things haven’t worked because even though he doesn’t pick the team, should he be signing players that the managers (who he arguably should be picking) aren’t going to play when we have very limited funds? (I’m fully aware there has been board meddling as well and like I say, financially he has done a decent job).

Harrison has played lots, but has been very poor this season especially, and has taken high wages and a loan spot which we are now finding we could do with.

Young has also played lots, but was also very poor last season, has generally improved this year which is why I caveated his inclusion.

Think he has done an allright job (more signings that have contributed than not) and wouldn’t be against TFG keeping him on, but think we are very short in some areas and his forward signings have left a lot to be desired so far. We have an ageing squad with lots of contracts expiring and he shelled close to £40m on Beto and maupay.
 
Swagger said:
Agree.

I expect one of the Chelsea centre mids to come in on loan with Broja returning to Chelsea and a striker. That will be it in my opinion.

A centre mid and a centre forward.

Patience is a virtue!
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If they add goals, I’d settle for that. It’s fantasy footie thinking we’re going to get three or four ‘elite’ players in during January when we’re still potless.

Getting a centre mid and a centre forward who assist and score would be a massive leap forward in itself.

But, yano, this is Everton…
 
Jebus_lives said:
It's the context with which he's done things - unsellable players on high wages.

Inability to buy because of high earners (who we need for depth) but never play.

Unattractive prospect for any sought after young player because we look like relegation fodder and play dross football.

As for your final point I completely disagree - we shouldn't be buying players the manager will play, we should have a style of play which we want and a profile of player that fits that system. We should then appoint managers to fit as closely as possible to that system.

Buying players for the manager is exactly why we ended up with a team of mismatched players, unbalanced squad and players value depreciating sat on the bench because a manager who we've appointed for 12 months doesn't like them (which we've been forced to do through our position and ownership capriciousness).
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Well you’ve hit on why the DoF model has never worked at Everton. The DoF should choose the coach. One that puts a tracksuit on and coaches the players. This obviously doesn’t happen.

We have consistently brought in old school managers that want players they have worked with before. There has been no coherent style of play at all as a consequence.

Given that. It’s imperative to bring in players the manager wants. Or we end up chasing Danjuma for a year when the manager doesn’t even fancy him.
 

Zatara said:
Why dont you list the actual signings down.

See how many there are that hes made (we know he didnt sign Maupay) and come back with a % of players we'll lose money on or make money on.
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Onana we made money he was 💩 but we all know your stance on him, but good that we made money on him. We don’t know who he has and hasn’t signed not one of us. They should all be down to him as far as I’m concerned.

Onana. Crap
McNeil. Squad player but unfortunately important to us.
Garner decent squad player maybe starter again injuries
Gueye Good at his job
Tarkowski Decent been up and down this season.
Beto effort that’s it
Chermiti looked ok shame he got injured jurys out
Young squad player shouldn’t have had anywhere near as many minutes.
O’Brien looked ok so far.
Ndiaye Good player
Iroegbunam looked ok but injuries

Vinagre crap
Coady crap
Harrison crap
Danjuma crap
Lindstrom looked better still not overly impressed with him.
Broja terrible signing.
Mangala. Good steady player.

For the money he hasn’t done too bad but I wouldn’t call it impeccable not by a long stretch. Loan signings apart from mangala haven’t been great
 
milks said:
When was the last time the club signed a player and it was just announced?

No leaks, no speculation, completely out of the blue.

I can't recall one.
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Incredibly difficult nowadays and mostly out of clubs' control. Fans spotting players at airport, players meeting club officials in hotels, staff at medical centres passing on news to their mates, etc. It would be great though if what's what ends up happening - but it clearly won't.
 

Raino85 said:
This, it feels like to many people have read the Athletic article were he boasts about making £60m off academy products. (£40m being Gordon, £6m for Simms, £4m for Samuels Smith & £8m for Cannon)
Well done to the clubs academy staff for progressing these lads to a level they can be transferred.
Leicester have just made a profit on Cannon, selling him 18 months later, and as you said, Gordon is probably worth double now.

I could shed the club of millions off the wage bill, 'sorry Deli, no contract for you', 'Andre, you have been here a while now, why don't you find somewhere else, but only when your contracts up'
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Gordon had to effectively be sold due to PSR/FFP.

Circa £45 million was a good deal for him at the time. He has improved but is he really worth £90 million!?

Since and including 2022/23:

McNeil
84 games
13 goals
12 assists

Gordon
86 games
21 goals (including 2 pens)
15 assists

Gordon has scored more goals in a much better team which creates a load more chances.

Not a huge gulf between the two in my view. Both hard working players with good delivery. Gordon has more pace with better pressing whilst McNeil has a better long range shot in my opinion.
 
milks said:
When was the last time the club signed a player and it was just announced?

No leaks, no speculation, completely out of the blue.

I can't recall one.
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I don't think that happens with any clubs now...

I guess.the closest was the broja loan...thay came out of nowhere but was deadline day
 

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