Everton, our summer transfers and short term cost control regulations

[DownSouthBlue]

Let's get one of those fake sponsorship deals like City have with Emirates.

Moshiri needs an actual viable company to do that,City have Etihad Aabar Etisalat Arabtec and AbuDhabiTourism all owned/linked to Shiekh Mansour that gives them a whopping £173 million a year in commercial revenues.

 

[bobbydigital]

Yes there's always ways to fudge rules, but looking pragmatically Stones is the easiest option, and the most readily remedied - particularly as his heart seems set on a move to City anyway.

Think we are cutting off our nose to spite our face in selling Stones because it's the easiest option. There's a reason he's highly coveted by the best managers in the world.
Like you say though, if he is set on leaving it is the best option, would very much hope Koeman get's the chance to change his mind before we go down this route though.

 

[Sitting Bull]

Yes there's always ways to fudge rules, but looking pragmatically Stones is the easiest option, and the most readily remedied - particularly as his heart seems set on a move to City anyway.

If Stones had a heart he wouldn't have abandoned his brothers in our Derby due to spontaneous-onset green apple splatters. He's got talent, but if his sale enables the addition of four or five clear squad upgrades there isn't much to discuss. Sell.

 

[The Esk]

Think we are cutting off our nose to spite our face in selling Stones because it's the easiest option. There's a reason he's highly coveted by the best managers in the world.
Like you say though, if he is set on leaving it is the best option, would very much hope Koeman get's the chance to change his mind before we go down this route though.

Agree totally mate.

 

[Hangleton]

Yes there's always ways to fudge rules, but looking pragmatically Stones is the easiest option, and the most readily remedied - particularly as his heart seems set on a move to City anyway.

To keep wages lower, can we not shift a percentage of the salary cost into the transfer fee, via "agents fees"?
Or is this all counted too?

 

[Blue Cheese]

Trying to read a thread Bizzaro has hijacked is impossible.

I'd rather keep Stones but I suppose if it's for the good and future of the club maybe a necessary sacrifice. I would be gutted though, he's too good for City.

 

[tellmema]

Probably a stupid question but. Is this for financial year or calendar?

Plus, what impact do loaning players out have, assuming the other team pays wages in full?

 

[AndyC]

Genuinely don't see why anybody would want McGeady (not even Championship standard), Kone (never been good enough, should do one to China), Niasse (somebody has made a lot of money on this transfer, needs binning off ASAP), Oviedo (always injured), Garbutt (didn't even perform well for Fulham, sell), Cleverley (Aston Villa is his standard, could just about stomach him being an option from the bench at best) at our club any longer.

Let's assume they are earning 50k, 40k, 50k, 30k, 20k, 40k a week (McGeady start, Cleverley end) - that's 12m saved a season. Not one of those players needs replacing because:

- Lennon, Mirallas, Deulofeu > McGeady
- We'll be getting a new striker anyway who is > Kone & Niasse, plus we already have Lukaku
- We've loads of youngsters (Kenny, Browning, Galloway, Holgate) who are > Oviedo (he's decent, but always injured, so what's the point?) and Garbutt will not dislodge Baines who still has a few years
- Cleverley doesn't even have a position, we have wingers and will be signing a central midfielder, plus those we already have are miles better than him

Then factor in Howard (let's assume 50k), Hibbert (40k), Pienaar (50k) all gone - another 7m. That's 20m saved from all of those players leaving, and from the 9 players I have mentioned here, only really 2 need 'replacing'; Howard and the position of striker (Kone/Niasse).

20m saved on wages, we replace them with a top goalkeeper on 70k and a partner for Lukaku on 80k - that is 8.5m a year wages for those two. Still 12m left saved in wages.

What with us actually having a WAR CHEST, that's some game of football manager Mr Koeman is going to be able to partake in.

I seriously doubt Hibbo was on anything remotely close to £40k a week, nearer £15-20k.

 

[ToffeeDoug]

This whole STCC regs aspect.....are we not in danger of turning a molehill into a mountain here? Rich club pays a high wage bill, rich club transgresses the rules, rich club gets fined, rich club carries on as before. I'm sure Everton could even get away arguing 'first offence I promise I won't do it again your honour' until the higher revenues start to roll in.

Or is there really a very large stick out there that can beat us?

 

[Jozzy]

In simple terms with out any extra money coming in we're not aloud to bring up our wagers by anymore than 7m in one season a 7m worth of wagers over the period of a year would work out to be an extra 135k a week which really isn't a lot is it.

 

[brieverton]

Only a moot point, and I appreciate "wages" are used generically and universally when referring to footballers' renumeration and reward so certainly not knocking anyone here but the term in that context has always grated on me a little.

Premiership footballers are multi-millionaires and a single contract can be life changing in terms of its financial impact. They are not factory workers putting in a shift.

You would probably have to go back to the pre-Sky era in the 80's when you could realistically say that professional footballers lifestyles had anything at all in common with the fans that paid from their wages to go the game.

Of the current squad, a lot of "wages" went unearned particularly from March onwards I'd say.

Ok. Rant over.

 

[tbone1970]

Say we sell Stones and Rom, which is probably going to happen, how much does that give us to play with??

 

[blue to the bone]

Say we sell Stones and Rom, which is probably going to happen, how much does that give us to play with??

One trillion dollars

 

[danny=)]

One trillion dollars

 

[Used_Johnny]

Naismith was sold in this accounting period
His book value would have been nominal, so that is around £8.5M profit