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Everton Summer 2024 Transfer Thread

GrandOldTeam said:
Maupay comfortably beats everyone we have at that.

I've no doubt whatsoever that Everton are a better team with Calvert-Lewin upfront, than Beto. Especially in Dyche's anti-football pragmatism.
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Yup now tbi k about it, the perceived notion is DCL is perfect for Dyche ball.

He's scored 8 goals in 45 games under Dyche - 3 of those being pens.

So 5 in 45 without or a 1 goal every 9 game strike rate. So 4 goals over a full 38 game season if fit and not on penalty duty.

Sorry mate, you think Beto doesn't score more than that? Comfortably more - he got 3 last season playing 10-15 minutes here and there.
 

yakublue said:
100%. Given our reliance on long ball and our tendency to leave the striker pretty isolated, DCL's ability to win the ball in the air and bring others into the game is huge. He also loses the ball a lot less than Beto.
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Exactly. It's really basic, simple stuff.

Beto needs to play off the shoulder. He's absolutely useless with his back to goal.

bluestevon said:
Yup now tbi k about it, the perceived notion is DCL is perfect for Dyche ball.

He's scored 8 goals in 45 games under Dyche - 3 of those being pens.

So 5 in 45 without or a 1 goal every 9 game strike rate. So 4 goals over a full 38 game season if fit and not on penalty duty.

Sorry mate, you think Beto doesn't score more than that? Comfortably more - he got 3 last season playing 10-15 minutes here and there.
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You think Beto is better than Calvert-Lewin.

You think it's sensible for Everton to sell Calvert-Lewin for £12m now, and just make do with one striker - Beto - until January.

I think you're wrong.
 
Eggs said:
…..not long to go now, looking like these ‘welcome to Everton’ threads were a waste of finger muscle ;)

Ernest Nuamah @john jako
Vitor Roque @john jako
Kieran Trippier @ToffeeScot
Wilfried Gnonto @blue to the bone (99 pages :Blink:)
Armando Broja @Groucho
Richarlison @Kenyon
Carlos Soler @Moomin
Rios @Moomin
Yankuba Minteh @Moomin
Kalvin Phillips @MikeH72
Ricardo Rodriguez @MikeH72
Richardson @hktoffee
James Rodriguez @Kendal
Jadon Philogene @blueblue
Wilfred Ndidi @Curtis
Serous Koita @Exeter_Gently
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Punish them
 
Wonder if given the resources we (don't) have, they don't want to back Dyche now, when he could be gone either in the season or at the end of his contract?
 
catcherintherye said:
We would be much worse. As we were last season. Chermiti is also injured.
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last season was our best season by far out of the 3, the only season we had back ups that werent Rondon, Maupay etc

GrandOldTeam said:
As I've said repeatedly, when you're averaging 41 points for 3 years on the spin - small margins matter and we can't afford to get any worse.

Beto, is worse.



And here's when we were a bit better;

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The Stats Behind Dominic Calvert-Lewin's Absence - Grand Old Team

I’m confident in saying that the vast majority of Evertonians would label the club’s #9, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, as the Toffees’ standout performer over the past few seasons. The 24-year old English International scored a club and career-high 16 goals in 33 Premier League appearances last season...
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  • Last season, Dominic Calvert-Lewin scored 34% of Everton’s 47 goals, meaning that no team that finished above 17th place relied more on one single player for a larger percentage of their goals.
  • The Toffees were especially reliant on Calvert-Lewin because of Richarlison’s poor season, as the Brazilian only scored 7 from an xG of 11.5, giving him the 4th worst “Goals minus Expected Goals” stat in the entire league with -4.5



Both.

He's our best option. In any system over Beto, but particularly one which leaves the striker isolated.

Dyche/Everton also restrict him because, we don't create enough, or score enough. With or without him.



Chermiti is out, and none of us have a clue on him.

It's bonkers to say we'd wouldn't be any worse for losing him for £12m, not replacing him and relying on having one striker. Beto.
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beto scores more goals than DCL so how is he better?

i dont think you can judge beto until he gets a run like DCL, a run that included 0 goals in about 20 games.

again, they are both terrible strikers but i still maintain we wouldnt be any worse of having beto start every week over DCL.

  • Last season, Dominic Calvert-Lewin scored 34% of Everton’s 47 goals, meaning that no team that finished above 17th place relied more on one single player for a larger percentage of their goals.
  • The Toffees were especially reliant on Calvert-Lewin because of Richarlison’s poor season, as the Brazilian only scored 7 from an xG of 11.5, giving him the 4th worst “Goals minus Expected Goals” stat in the entire league with -4.5
point 1) so? our main lone striker scored the bulk of our goals??? that's literally his job
point 2) didnt DCL have the worse Xg out of any player in europe at one point last season?

we don't score enough with him because he can't kick a football, he constantly misses chance after chance, hence why he had the worst XG at one point.

if we sold DCL we would likely end up with Broja or fofana on loan or something.

id rather have either of them on loan ( or swap ) + beto + Chermiti+ transfer fee + saved wages

than DCL+BETO+chermiti, lose him on a free OR pay his silly salary




?
 

yakublue said:
100%. Given our reliance on long ball and our tendency to leave the striker pretty isolated, DCL's ability to win the ball in the air and bring others into the game is huge. He also loses the ball a lot less than Beto.
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So given that the percentage possession stats when DCL plays should be comfortably better than when he doesn't, but they are not.

So if he's holding it up bringing others into the play, why is there pretty much zero difference in any measurable metric which would show this?
 
How bad is this;

Here is a list of the last 20 strikers Everton has signed, starting from the most recent:

  1. Beto - Signed in 2023 from Udinese.
  2. Neal Maupay - Signed in 2022 from Brighton & Hove Albion.
  3. Ellis Simms - Recalled and re-signed in 2022 after a loan spell at Sunderland.
  4. Salomón Rondón - Signed in 2021 as a free agent after leaving Dalian Professional.
  5. Moise Kean - Signed in 2019 from Juventus.
  6. Cenk Tosun - Signed in 2018 from Beşiktaş.
  7. Wayne Rooney - Re-signed in 2017 from Manchester United.
  8. Sandro Ramírez - Signed in 2017 from Málaga.
  9. Dominic Calvert-Lewin - Signed in 2016 from Sheffield United.
  10. Oumar Niasse - Signed in 2016 from Lokomotiv Moscow.
  11. Enner Valencia - Signed on loan in 2016 from West Ham United.
  12. Romelu Lukaku - Initially signed on loan in 2013, then permanently in 2014 from Chelsea.
  13. Arouna Koné - Signed in 2013 from Wigan Athletic.
  14. Nikica Jelavić - Signed in 2012 from Rangers.
  15. Denis Stracqualursi - Signed on loan in 2011 from Tigre.
  16. Apostolos Vellios - Signed in 2011 from Iraklis.
  17. Victor Anichebe - Came through the Everton youth academy and was registered as a first-team striker in 2006.
  18. James Beattie - Signed in 2005 from Southampton.
  19. Marcus Bent - Signed in 2004 from Ipswich Town.
  20. Tomasz Radzinski - Signed in 2001 from Anderlecht.
This list includes both permanent transfers and loan deals where the player was primarily brought in as a striker.
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Relying on AI there so probably a few missing but we bloody deserve to go down. :lol:
 

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