Everton Summer Transfer Thread - 2022

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Which do you think is the most relevant baseline for where we are now? I remember where we finished in 2005 and all, mate. Has absolutely nothing to do with the constraints we find ourselves under, being able only to spend limited amounts, on limited players, to improve a terrible squad.
I think the players don`t just drop off to the levels they did, yes something was fundamentally wrong within the camp under the Kopite King Rafael but formations since have not suited the players except when we`ve played a back 4 and been competitive or won....

Again this formation does not suit the players, our players will be good enough in a 4-3-3.... all the evidence is there.

4-3-3
Man City H L1-0 unlucky/ref decision
Liverpool A L 2-0 competitive
Newcastle H W 1-0
West Ham A L2-1 mistakes
Man Utd H W1-0
Leicester H D1-1
Crystal Palace H 2nd half won 3-0
Spurs A L5-0
Burnley A L3-2
Chelsea W1-0
= Played 9.5, Scored 10, conceded 14, points 13.
Goal Difference -4, obviously the Spurs defeat was costly but only Spurs and Liverpool beat us by 2 clear goals, rest were the odd goals.
Points per game - 1.37
Goals per game - 1.05
Conceded per game - 1.47

4-4-2
Leeds H W3-0
Southampton A L2-0
= Played 2, Scored 3, conceded 2, points 3.
Goal Difference +1
Points per game - 1.50
Goals per game - 1.50
Conceded per game - 1.00

5-2-3
Wolves H L1-0 Never looked like scoring
Newcastle A L3-1
Leicester A W2-1
Watford A D0-0
Brentford H L3-2
Crystal Palace H 1st half L2-0
Arsenal A L5-1
= Played 6.5, Scored 6, conceded 15, points 4.
Goal Difference - -9
Points per game - 0.62
Goals per game - 0.92
Conceded per game - 2.31

All off the stats from last season, anyone wanting the 5-2-3 stats WANTS Everton to be relegated.

This season, early days I know....

5-2-3
Chelsea H L1-0
Villa A L1-0
= Played 2, Scored 0, conceded 2, points 0.
Goal Difference - -2
Points per game - 0.00
Goals per game - 0..00
Conceded per game - 1.00

4-2-3-1
Villa (Last 10 minutes) D1-1
= Played 1, Scored 1, conceded 1.
Goal Difference - 0
Goals per game - 1.00
Conceded per game - 1.00

See the pattern forming here?
 


I think the players don`t just drop off to the levels they did, yes something was fundamentally wrong within the camp under the Kopite King Rafael but formations since have not suited the players except when we`ve played a back 4 and been competitive or won....

Again this formation does not suit the players, our players will be good enough in a 4-3-3.... all the evidence is there.

4-3-3
Man City H L1-0 unlucky/ref decision
Liverpool A L 2-0 competitive
Newcastle H W 1-0
West Ham A L2-1 mistakes
Man Utd H W1-0
Leicester H D1-1
Crystal Palace H 2nd half won 3-0
Spurs A L5-0
Burnley A L3-2
Chelsea W1-0
= Played 9.5, Scored 10, conceded 14, points 13.
Goal Difference -4, obviously the Spurs defeat was costly but only Spurs and Liverpool beat us by 2 clear goals, rest were the odd goals.
Points per game - 1.37
Goals per game - 1.05
Conceded per game - 1.47

4-4-2
Leeds H W3-0
Southampton A L2-0
= Played 2, Scored 3, conceded 2, points 3.
Goal Difference +1
Points per game - 1.50
Goals per game - 1.50
Conceded per game - 1.00

5-2-3
Wolves H L1-0 Never looked like scoring
Newcastle A L3-1
Leicester A W2-1
Watford A D0-0
Brentford H L3-2
Crystal Palace H 1st half L2-0
Arsenal A L5-1
= Played 6.5, Scored 6, conceded 15, points 4.
Goal Difference - -9
Points per game - 0.62
Goals per game - 0.92
Conceded per game - 2.31

All off the stats from last season, anyone wanting the 5-2-3 stats WANTS Everton to be relegated.

This season, early days I know....

5-2-3
Chelsea H L1-0
Villa A L1-0
= Played 2, Scored 0, conceded 2, points 0.
Goal Difference - -2
Points per game - 0.00
Goals per game - 0..00
Conceded per game - 1.00

4-2-3-1
Villa (Last 10 minutes) D1-1
= Played 1, Scored 1, conceded 1.
Goal Difference - 0
Goals per game - 1.00
Conceded per game - 1.00

See the pattern forming here?
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We played a back 5 against Chelsea when we won 1-0.
 
I think the players don`t just drop off to the levels they did, yes something was fundamentally wrong within the camp under the Kopite King Rafael but formations since have not suited the players except when we`ve played a back 4 and been competitive or won....

Again this formation does not suit the players, our players will be good enough in a 4-3-3.... all the evidence is there.

4-3-3
Man City H L1-0 unlucky/ref decision
Liverpool A L 2-0 competitive
Newcastle H W 1-0
West Ham A L2-1 mistakes
Man Utd H W1-0
Leicester H D1-1
Crystal Palace H 2nd half won 3-0
Spurs A L5-0
Burnley A L3-2
Chelsea W1-0
= Played 9.5, Scored 10, conceded 14, points 13.
Goal Difference -4, obviously the Spurs defeat was costly but only Spurs and Liverpool beat us by 2 clear goals, rest were the odd goals.
Points per game - 1.37
Goals per game - 1.05
Conceded per game - 1.47

4-4-2
Leeds H W3-0
Southampton A L2-0
= Played 2, Scored 3, conceded 2, points 3.
Goal Difference +1
Points per game - 1.50
Goals per game - 1.50
Conceded per game - 1.00

5-2-3
Wolves H L1-0 Never looked like scoring
Newcastle A L3-1
Leicester A W2-1
Watford A D0-0
Brentford H L3-2
Crystal Palace H 1st half L2-0
Arsenal A L5-1
= Played 6.5, Scored 6, conceded 15, points 4.
Goal Difference - -9
Points per game - 0.62
Goals per game - 0.92
Conceded per game - 2.31

All off the stats from last season, anyone wanting the 5-2-3 stats WANTS Everton to be relegated.

This season, early days I know....

5-2-3
Chelsea H L1-0
Villa A L1-0
= Played 2, Scored 0, conceded 2, points 0.
Goal Difference - -2
Points per game - 0.00
Goals per game - 0..00
Conceded per game - 1.00

4-2-3-1
Villa (Last 10 minutes) D1-1
= Played 1, Scored 1, conceded 1.
Goal Difference - 0
Goals per game - 1.00
Conceded per game - 1.00

See the pattern forming here?
I see the point you’re making and appreciate the effort that’s gone into that post but I don’t consider any of those sample sizes big enough to say I see a discernible pattern, no.

My increasing feeling is that Carlo is just that good a coach, that he managed to squeeze an excellent half-season out of this gang of ne’er-do-wells and James, and that what has come since is more reflective of our true baseline position as a squad. A slight underperformance last season in terms of position but I’d put us no higher than 13th on paper ability alone.

The right coaching team will get the best tune they can by impressing their system on the players, while noting the need - as Frank has on multiple occasions - to be adaptable. The Palace game is an excellent example of that.

FWIW I’d much rather us play 4 at the back too, but Frank seems to like 5 and Kev has done a BTEC in 5-3-2 or something, so I just hope the squad can take to it better with a preseason and some sexy new players.
 
He is a useful player and a pain to play against.

Never scored less than 10 goals a season in the Premier League either.
Incorrect sir, scored 10 once then 8 twice, see graphic below....

1 goal involvement every 3 or 4 games, 26 goals and 7 assists from 102 games. The nicest way I can out it is not what we need.

If you want a player to be a nuisance and put himself about play Mason Holgate up front, probably have better stats!

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