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Everton Summer Transfer Thread - 2022

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Football as they say is all about opinions and of course off the field issues do impact what happens on it.

As for us during that 3 year period where we went from winners to 10th to winners the was significant churn in player terms but aside from going from 10th to winning was Conte adapting to a 3 at the back, 3 of the established back 4 deployed by Mourino ( Cahill,Terry and Ivanovich ) were fast approaching the end of their sell by dates. So it was all about the incomings namely Kante , Alonso and Luiz . Kante changed the dynamic
Nah, in that season you had a 15 game unbeaten run, that's 4 games longer than Everton's best ever PL unbeaten sequence and absolutely not typical of a midtable side. You were never the 10th best team it was just one of them weird things that happens. If we consistently finish 15th-17th then clearly that's the level the squad is at. It happening once isn't anywhere close to being proof of that though, that should be fairly obvious really.
 

Leeds seem to be doing a fair bit of quiet business, Aaronson, Kristensen and Marc Roca now.

They might turn over a few mind Raphina and Philips spring to mind if rumours have validity.
 
Not sure I read any contradiction.

The post suggested that Godfrey and Doucare were relegation standard not the whole of your squad.

As for your squad probably being a 10th place squad sorry that was just not the case. As they say the table doesn’t lie. As for being on 7th highest wages that may be the case

Fair points, I had probably misread that a little.

My own personal view is that Godfrey and Doucoure were 2 of the best players in relegated teams. Indeed even Godfrey recently got an England call up. So I'm not sure I agree they are relegation/championship standard. I'd concede both were poor last season, but across their careers have been better. This is subjective mind.

Your 2nd point is fair. I would only say there is a distinction between an intrinsic level of a squad, and the teams performance. I sort of see Chelsea (who I believe you support) as intrinsically around a 2 points per game type of squad. The team performance will dip somewhere above and below that.

Last year was the worst performance by most metrics for 20 years, and in some cases in any season. We had numerous injuries (the worst in the league), a split boardroom, a very poor manager who was I'll suited, and were effected by sanctions from the government. There were also some dubious VAR calls that have subsequently been acknowledged as mistakes. It was in most sense an anomaly.

Over the last 4 years, performance was 54 point, 51 points, 59 points then 39 points. If you smooth this out, it's late 40s as an average, so around half way up.

Theres some subjectivity there with a mixture of some objective measures, but it feels intuitively fair. We are probably half way up tbe league, but missed several key players and werent managed well.
 
Nah, in that season you had a 15 game unbeaten run, that's 4 games longer than Everton's best ever PL unbeaten sequence and absolutely not typical of a midtable side. You were never the 10th best team it was just one of them weird things that happens. If we consistently finish 15th-17th then clearly that's the level the squad is at. It happening once isn't anywhere close to being proof of that though, that should be fairly obvious really.

Yes. I dont think taking single seasons as indicators of performance is useful. The last 4 we had 54, 51, 59 then 39 points. It's clear to see one season was an anomaly.

This is not to say that our squad is amazing, or we didnt deserve to be 16th or whatever.
 

I don't think our midfield is better than it was at the end of 2020. And even if it is the outlay to get only a small bit better is horrendous.

Pickford is an average keeper. I'll die on that hill.
It would be nice if he was average! In the top 5 of the worst stats in the premier. 2 "good" games per season...
 
There's no doubting Lukaku is a great striker but firstly his fee + wages would be obscene and secondly he's a tit.

We have a new manager, new DoF, lots of wasters leaving and little money to play with. We need to cultivate a squad of hungry, committed players not absolute mercenaries like him. It's not like he'd fire us into Europe or something.

I love Lukaku, but not sure he fits the mantra of what Lampard or the club are trying to do.

I am also slowly moving to accept you cant just view loans as free.

Like a 20m fee with 60k wages is over 5 years 4m fee and 3m wages so cost 7m a year. Lukaku on loan is likely to be maybe 12m a year wages. It's not a zero cost option at all.
 
It would be nice if he was average! In the top 5 of the worst stats in the premier. 2 "good" games per season...

Let your eyes be the judge not a stat that is impacted significantly by other player’s contributions

The Liverpool & City keepers are a country mile better. I think ours is better but then I would .

Lloris, Scmichael and De Gea were better but maybe on a par but not much difference . Ramsdale I just don’t rate and whilst I think Pickford distribution is not top notch Ramsdales is worse.

The rest aren’t at his level
 

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