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Everton Summer transfers 2021

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i think gray and townsend could be great signings

i have a good feeling

they don't play like crabs and like to go forward and attack and take players on

Has to be an end product though. I remember bolaise being the same, bombing forward, beating players then no end product. Gray at the end of the day in his 133 premier league appearances his stat on assists is 1 every 14 games. Townsend's is 243 appearances, 26 assists, what's that, 1 assist every 10 games.

Now with them playing with Lewin and Richarlison they may make a difference and it would be boss if they do.
 
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My take on McNeil is that youre not buying him at 21 for 2 goals and 5 assists in a Burnley team.

Youre buying him because you hope he can get 4 goals and 10 assists in an Everton team.



Top top top player, then suffered a major knee injury.

By the looks of things he has had a minor issue with it back in Feb.





Begovic
Gray
Townsend
Longstaff
Rondon

:)

Even when i type it out it feels like im in a dream...


The Italians do loan deals for 1 or 2 seasons with obligations to buy.

Not sure why weve not managed to do that with a couple of clubs who need money.

We'll have to hope that if we don't sell Kean, then that's what we're looking at.

Look, I don't think we'll go down, but we are so glaringly weak in 2-3 positions. It's going to have to be done late but they have to get it right.
 
That window wasn't a million miles away from as bad as what came during the Walsh era

Delph - £8m
Gomes - £22m
Gbamin - £25m
Kean - £27m
Iwobi - £28m

I think you can forgive the Gomes signing - he had been good on loan here, there weren't too many dissenting voices about signing him, ok it hasn't worked out but I can imagine the fume if we had let him go somewhere else. Gbamin the jury is still out on, we can't hold injuries against Brands and co with that one. Kean - seemed to make sense at the time, but if we were placing faith in DCL then with hindsight I'm not sure what the thought process was on this one. We'll hopefully make our money back though, so for now it might not turn out totally disastrous. Delph and Iwobi though - hard to justify either of them. Not sure Delph was required at all and Iwobi made very little sense given we had spent the summer chasing left-footed wingers like Pepe, Malcom and David Neres.

That's about £110m in transfer fees plus about £350k-ish per week we lashed on those. We've been dealing with the fallout from the Walsh/Koeman era for a while, but that summer has been almost as bad and you could probably point fingers at it for our situation this summer.

Logic to each signing I think bar Iwobi.

Can't pin the injuries on Brands obviously, but Gomes and Delph were given huge wages.

We'd then spent 3 weeks chasing Zaha and went and got Iwobi who offers nothing similar really.

Just all a bit mad. We also bid for Doucoure in the last few days of that window too.

Huge wages and not exactly small fees.
 
I highly doubt we'll be signing him unless he's on a free. There were a couple of stories about his team wanting to cancel his contract, weren't there? He wouldn't be my first choice, he wouldn't even make my list, but I don't think him playing in China necessarily means he comes here and can't play at the level anymore - Witsel and Carrasco, off the top of my head, came back and seamlessly went back to playing at a high level. I'm not saying for a single moment that he's on their level, I just don't necessarily think the point means anything.

According to what I posted we didn't like the structure of the deal but seems there's a chance we'd go back for him.

'Structure of the deal' suggests there'd be a fee involved.

You're not wrong, but Witsel was 28/29 when he came back - and a defensive mid going to Germany - and Carrasco 26. They also both had top level experience. There's a difference.
 


Couldn't think of a better thread to put it in, and not really worthy of its own. Doesn't tell us anything we don't know but I found the Bogarde example interesting, just because of how relatively recent it was and how alien a concept it was for a highly paid player not to be bothered about playing footy, in favour of picking up a wedge on the bench.

Of course we have by far the most examples of this new(ish) phenomenon in the PL but it still affects every club in the division to a degree. When COVID hit "stop" on the pointless, "average players for big money" song that is the soundtrack to modern top flight football, we just happened to be the ones holding the biggest parcel.

It is comforting in a way to consider it as a side-effect of the modern game as opposed to an Everton-only problem, but any comfort taken disappears immediately when you're reminded of the sobering fact that there is literally no way around the issue beyond letting the contract of every one of these lumps expire.

Do we think lessons will be learned? Or will we (and other clubs) just keep topping up with fresh crap, when the old crap leaves?

Apologies if off-topic. To compensate: ANNOUNCE LONGSTAFF(S).
 
I’m guessing all those freebies for PSG cost them north of £100m in signing on fees.

Oh it'll have been close to that definitely, Messi is getting €25m and Ramos got €15m. But again, that's not a transfer fee and you wouldn't get those 4 players for £100m if you had to pay fees, would you. So it's all relative. PSG can afford it, too, but they can't not be treated as free signings because every free signing gets a signing on fee.

My general point was you can't just look at fees and say whether it's a successful window or signing or not. We got James without paying a transfer fee (and mad how conveniently his wages have now shot up from £120k which was reported last year to nearer the £200k mark now we need him shifted...) but he's still been a good addition.
 
Villa have lost their best player by a country mile. He was also their captain.

I can imagine what would be said on here if we spent 30m on Danny Ings and their other signings have never played in the Premiership.

I am not saying they are bad signings , they may be brilliant but I can't see how anybody can say that Villa are out performing any club in this window.
Ings is reported as 25m plus 5m addons. If the 5m is actually paid then he has hit his targets and will have been a success. Buendia has played in the PL with Norwich the season before last where he had better stats than Grealish (our 'best player by a country mile'). Yes, Grealish is a loss but we got 100m for him which is very good. To say that 'can't see how anybody can say that Villa are outperforming any club in this window.' is a bit of a joke.
 
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So Gray, Townsend, Begovic, Rondon and Buta in for less than 5m could be our summer. The only, and I do mean only, positive thing here is that perhaps it is the club recognizing that they hired a short term manager and are not going to waste money buying expensive players to suit him when he will be gone before we know it. (Unlike say when we spent 50m buying Walcott and Tosun for Fat Sam).
 
Ings is reported as 25m plus 5m addons. If the 5m is actually paid then he has hit his targets and will have been a success. Buendia has played in the PL with Norwich the season before last where he had better stats that Grealish (our 'best player by a country mile'). Yes, Grealish is a loss but we got 100m for him which is very good. To say that 'can't see how anybody can say that Villa are outperforming any club in this window.' is a bit of a joke.
hopefully (for you) its not a repeat of the last time villa spunked loads of money and ended up relegated!
 

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