Everton Summer transfers 2021

[Brisan123]

We can’t afford any more turkeys.

Needs to be another summer of solid signings.

Just like last summer

 

[Brisan123]

Well that's why I stress that if we'd have been prudent with Iwobi, it would have made sense.

We bought a player the right age, and right 'potential'. So far it's not worked out. But if we'd have paid his actual value - say £20m tops - we'd have easily been able to recoup most of the fee. As it was, we massively overpaid for a player of his quality.

I'm not saying we go and get Iwobi-level players. Jonathan Ikone (believe he's 22) and Leon Bailey (23/24) are perfect examples of players for that right wing role who are definitely a step up on Iwobi and offer what we need in terms of quality and versatility. They'd cost in the same region as Iwobi, but are definitely a step up too. As much as I'd love a player like Zaha, we'd be better spending the £30m on Bailey than £45m on Zaha, for example.

Yes, if a player of Koulibaly's abilty became available then I'd be all for it. But in terms of area of priority, CB isn't one just yet IMO - we need the positions we're low on quantity/quality in first, and those roles require younger players for the reasons I stress above.

If we sold Holgate ( young Versatile English ) for 20m and signed Koubailly for 35 m you have massively improved the defence for 15m net

 

[Curtis]

Since Moshiri has arrived we've spent like a yokel who won the lottery so I hope the koulibaly rumors are bunk. He's a quality player but we don't need an exorbitant 29 year old center back. Whatever funds we have should be allocated savvily on more pressing squad concerns

 

[Nymzee]

Koulibaly has been linked everywhere and anywhere for years now and is still at Napoli. Can’t be all that really.

 

[sexualchocolate]

A very reputable source..Italian clubs are screwed financially.
They won't get that.
Maybe we won't. But he looks a very good player.

Hes more than decent...

 

[Goat]

Anythings possible

Lautaro: Would be 24--same as DCL/Richarlison-- by the start of next season, which is perfect. He'd be ideal at the tip of a diamond and would be the link to midfield and attack. I dont think he'd be available at £50-55mil though unless Brands pulled a rabbit out of a hat, his value would be more like £80mil even now.

Youre right about Inter needing the money due to their Chinese owners. Notable other players at Inter are Bastoni (CB) who looks to me to be the next great italian defender, Hakimi (LB/RB/LM/RM) who they missed the last payment to Madrid for and Barella (CM) possibly the most underrated midfielder around.

They wont need to sell all of them but those 4 would make us a top 4 side. Without question.


Rabiot: Turns 26 in just over a weeks time and in this world where we sign Lautaro, he'd come in for Gomes on the left central midfield role. Hes someone who can come deep to pick up the ball and can 'break the lines' to pass to Lauraro, DCL or Richarlison...and of course the two full backs bombing on in a diamond. I like Rabiot and he'd probably link well with Digne as he does for France.


Koulibaly: 30 in the summer, same as VVD and probably at the top level for 3 seasons before a decline. Pretty much the 'perfect' centre back for the premier league and he and Godfrey could just stand on the halfway line such is their pace. If he is available at £40mil odd and we could sell Mina or Keane then its a huge jump in quality...Godfrey should also improve with him in the side and hes a really good passer as well.


Add these 3 players + Aarons/Emerson at right back then we'd look like a team built for a diamond or back 3.

On paper, together they look like ideal signings.

Id be amazed.

Zat just casually dropping 350m on players.

 

[Curtis]

Koulibaly has been linked everywhere and anywhere for years now and is still at Napoli. Can’t be all that really.

I've always chalked it up to Napoli being notoriously difficult to negotiate with , but who knows maybe he's just over-hyped

 

[Lord Buckethead]

Koulibaly has been linked everywhere and anywhere for years now and is still at Napoli. Can’t be all that really.

The Napoli Chairman is a proper mentalist, virtualy impossible deal to with him. Wouldn't surprise me to find out he's been snorting Maradona's ashes.

 

[Goat]

The important difference is that players from continents other than Europe are now considered with far greater context than was previously the case.

It used to be that non-EU nationals were judged primarily on the number of international caps they'd had recently; the lower ranked the country, the higher the percentage of appearances required. So you could have Jimmy Noskill from Bububo who'd played 100 percent of their country's World Cup qualifiers for the last however many years, losing every single one, being allowed to sign for West Brom simply because they were an international regular.

Now, every non-British player is subjected to a pretty detailed points system which takes into account club football appearances as well as international. Domestic leagues and continental competitions are ranked in bands, and the Copa Liberdatores is ranked particularly highly - it's on par with the Champions League. This is a huge change for South American players. Where once they were unfairly (I would argue, at least) discriminated against because they happened to be born in countries with intense competition for international caps, now they're recognised as being part of the talent bed that produces such competition.

Do you have Jimmy Noskills progressive passing stats Browns?

 

[Brisan123]

Do you have Jimmy Noskills progressive passing stats Browns?

I’ve a copy of his heat map if you want it

 

[catcherintherye]

Well that's why I stress that if we'd have been prudent with Iwobi, it would have made sense.

We bought a player the right age, and right 'potential'. So far it's not worked out. But if we'd have paid his actual value - say £20m tops - we'd have easily been able to recoup most of the fee. As it was, we massively overpaid for a player of his quality.

I'm not saying we go and get Iwobi-level players. Jonathan Ikone (believe he's 22) and Leon Bailey (23/24) are perfect examples of players for that right wing role who are definitely a step up on Iwobi and offer what we need in terms of quality and versatility. They'd cost in the same region as Iwobi, but are definitely a step up too. As much as I'd love a player like Zaha, we'd be better spending the £30m on Bailey than £45m on Zaha, for example.

Yes, if a player of Koulibaly's abilty became available then I'd be all for it. But in terms of area of priority, CB isn't one just yet IMO - we need the positions we're low on quantity/quality in first, and those roles require younger players for the reasons I stress above.

Fair enough mate, but I think Leverkusen want double that for Bailey.

 

[Brownie]

Do you have Jimmy Noskills progressive passing stats Browns?

At the moment he's on:

Progressive passes attempted 8,760
Progressive passes completed 1

That one successful pass was an accidental shinroller clearance that went all the way through to the striker. Statisticians questioned it but he managed to convince them it was intentional in a press conference by standing up and spreading his arms to appear more aggressive.

 

[BlueToff]

If we sold Holgate ( young Versatile English ) for 20m and signed Koubailly for 35 m you have massively improved the defence for 15m net

Yeah that's fine. I mean, I don't think it'll happen, but we'd see.

In the positions of genuine priority (in an ideal world we look to improve every position but you know what I mean) we need younger players, though. More because of the demands of the position, than anything else.

For example, if we want a back up forward to Dom, then there'd be no harm in bringing in an older player (I think we have that in King, tbh, if he's exclusively played as a striker) but in the sense of maybe getting someone experienced who knows what his role is, rather than someone young who needs game time (i.e. Kean).

But we need a winger with bags of pace and enegry. We need a CM with genuine ball-carrying ability, power and skill on the ball to pick a pass (those players tend to be younger and then as they get older they settle into a role) and then we need a right-back who can get up and down all day. So in that sense, we need to be targetting players in that 22-25 bracket.

 

[BlueToff]

Fair enough mate, but I think Leverkusen want double that for Bailey.

£60m?

Believe that'd make him their record sale after Havertz...

He's 23 (24 in August) and has 2 years left on his deal.

They are looking unlikely to get Champions League.

He was getting touted around for €25m last year because he'd had an average season in 19-20.

I don't think a Bundesliga club, who aren't in the CL, and are getting no revenue from fans, are going to be demanding £60m.

 

[Brisan123]

Yeah that's fine. I mean, I don't think it'll happen, but we'd see.

In the positions of genuine priority (in an ideal world we look to improve every position but you know what I mean) we need younger players, though. More because of the demands of the position, than anything else.

For example, if we want a back up forward to Dom, then there'd be no harm in bringing in an older player (I think we have that in King, tbh, if he's exclusively played as a striker) but in the sense of maybe getting someone experienced who knows what his role is, rather than someone young who needs game time (i.e. Kean).

But we need a winger with bags of pace and enegry. We need a CM with genuine ball-carrying ability, power and skill on the ball to pick a pass (those players tend to be younger and then as they get older they settle into a role) and then we need a right-back who can get up and down all day. So in that sense, we need to be targetting players in that 22-25 bracket.

I agree on the RB CM and RW
They all need to have pace power and physicality
These are sadly lacking in our squad
We also need cover for Digne ie a player who has the same qualities as Digne but obviously to a lesser degree
Reece James really impressed me on these 3 fronts on our recent games
Those 3 positions should be a priority I agree but if finances allow we would be mad to turn up our noses to Koubailly