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Everton Summer transfers 2021

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YAWN
We haven't signed one single Newcastle player you turnip
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*laughs in Horse Puncher*
 
…but a bit like the situation with the young Chelsea CB we were taking on loan only for that to fall through because David Luiz left and we were left without CB cover.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s persuaded to stay.

If these clubs had been reasonable with us. We probably could have given consistent premier league football to Zouma, Tomori, Maitland Niles, Sergio Romero, Marcos Rojo, Chris Smalling just to bake a few. Not saying we should have gone for any of them but they were all targets at some point in time. We would have paid decent money, the players would have been happy and so would we have been as a club.

Instead these clubs have led us along all window and then shafted themselves, the players, and us right at the last minute just so they didn’t boost a mid table premier league team even slightly. Ridiculous way of operating that has ruined quite a few careers.
 

Its a damning reflection on clubs who are scrambling around for deals on deadline day. How can they be run so poorly that they end up paying over the odds for players that aren't wanted. I remember an incident from that Sunderland Til I Die documentary, when it was minutes from the deadline and they ended up spending £4m on Will Grigg - a striker who scored a few goals in League Two. They were successful on their 8th bid!!! It was laughable watching the chairman and manager lauding the success of the deal. He managed 5 goals in 50 games. Currently on loan at MK Dons...
 
I wouldn't argue otherwise mate, thats the nature of contract football, you are paying for a service. The relevance is in regard to losses and the club wellbeing. We made a 139 mill loss last year, that has been reduced by 8 mill plus with this deal on annual cost. Less loan fees and the eventual fee. Its less about Kean and more about the impact and wellbing of the club.

As a side i would have kept Kean myself, i wouldn't be part of the group think on him leaving, like Vlasic and Lookman on the day they are coming back to our direct rivals and teams that pipped us for European football last season, i think we've made another mistake in letting Moise go, I'm concerned the club cant get the best out of talented young players.
I can completely appreciate that point of view mate, I largely agree with much of that too. The way the club has been operating the last few years is simply not substantial.

I don’t want to go to far off topic here but the club must seriously improve our financial dealings (both football and corporate related), I strongly support that view.

Kean’s Everton career certainly didn’t pan out the way any of us wanted it to. However, if we’re going to generate more money in transfer fees than what we’d paid for each player the club would be in a very different position than it currently is. I know I’m not setting the bar very high and I understand after signing on fees and associated costs we’ll make a minimal transfer profit.Howevet, I believe the model of taking a punt on a younger player with some first team experience is a worthwhile risk, if they fail (like in this instance) we’re not left with an ageing player on huge wages, having no interest in making a move and eventually leaving on a free.

I appreciate that I’m going away from our original comments a bit, but I just think the Kean deal has worked out alright for a player that most of us would label a failed signing. We have done so many much worse deals that need to be a talking point, before this one and
need to be more of a focus than the wages of a player we truely only paid for one year.
 
The thought crossed my mind.

Honestly think Utd have lost the plot and City absolutely popcorned them.

They play with a front 4 and the manager just might perish on the Ronaldo Rock who he has to play, imagine picking 4 out of these and trying to keep everyone happy:

Fernandez
Pogba
Sancho
Greenwood
Cavani
Mata
Rashford
Lingard
Ronaldo
Van Der Beek
Martial

Its actually ridiculous, the wages for that alone must be incredible, impossible to keep that squad happy, strikes me as really slap bang, kid in a sweet shop squad building.

Gas thing is their best options in the double pivot behind are Fred and McTominey, mad.
Is mata still there? I heard an interesting point on talk sport last night about UTD still boatloads of Ronaldo Merch, which clearly could not continue if he had gone to City.... so I think it's driven by brand rather than ability - personally I think his Ego is so big that it's going to be a struggle to manage the fall out of it all.
 

I can completely appreciate that point of view mate, I largely agree with much of that too. The way the club has been operating the last few years is simply not substantial.

I don’t want to go to far off topic here but the club must seriously improve our financial dealings (both football and corporate related), I strongly support that view.

Kean’s Everton career certainly didn’t pan out the way any of us wanted it to. However, if we’re going to generate more money in transfer fees than what we’d paid for each player the club would be in a very different position than it currently is. I know I’m not setting the bar very high and I understand after signing on fees and associated costs we’ll make a minimal transfer profit.Howevet, I believe the model of taking a punt on a younger player with some first team experience is a worthwhile risk, if they fail (like in this instance) we’re not left with an ageing player on huge wages, having no interest in making a move and eventually leaving on a free.

I appreciate that I’m going away from our original comments a bit, but I just think the Kean deal has worked out alright for a player that most of us would label a failed signing. We have done so many much worse deals that need to be a talking point, before this one and
need to be more of a focus than the wages of a player we truely only paid for one year.

We're on the same page mate, that should be our model. I think we fail at it time and again, with developing younger players in this profile, we have a body of evidence, with Lookman, Vlasic - moving to teams who finished ahead of us last season, in Europe and gone to direct rivals and now Kean. All labeled agitators, never going to make it or home sick - none ever put in a transfer request and all thrived away from here. How can players thrive away from here, increase in value and sign to improve our rivals. There is a problem at the club in developing players of this profile. it needs to be acknowledged, there is a trend there to my mind and the common denominator is the club. We had young Small jump ship last week too.
 

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