Everton Summer transfers 2021

[Brisan123]

If the manager doesnt think the squad is capable, he can resign anytime he wants.

Prays feverently

 

[Mitch Ward's Minder]

I do think it’s a different era now. And I know you’ve pointed to Leicester recently, which is fair enough. But they’ve also spent plenty of money since the League win. But recouped well over a 200mil from selling players.

People always seem to mention Liverpool and the success they’ve had, while balancing the books. First let’s not make out Liverpool never spend money. They’ve always been one of the biggest spenders in the prem era. And got a lot wrong from the 2006 cup win up to Klopp nearly 10yrs later. And like Leicester they’ve recouped big money for 3 players, while also probably getting close to 100mil for fringe players.

I think their model would have been to sell one of salah or mane for big money this window or last sumner and go again. I think that ship has sailed. I still think next sumner they could get decent money for salah. Mane, firmino not so much. Will be interesting to see how they get on, with out a massive asset to sell and FSG unlikely to bank roll them. And with klopp going in 3yrs. How will Liverpool bridge that gap. It will be quite a let down for one of the best managers in history. The best front 3 ever and the best CB. And to the obsessed media, if in 10yrs klopp wins only 2 trophies. Don’t get me wrong I would love us to win one.

But they and Leicester to a lesser extent have proved you can compete, with excellent recruitment and have a top manager. But going back to the Moyes days. And signing cheap players from the championship and abroad, will only take you so far. To compete, you still need a number of top class players in your team.

The last bit there was always true of the Moyes teams, we were always one top quality player away from really competing. Usually it was a winger or a striker. We could compete with the Top 4 in terms of defence and midfield, but we lacked that quality to score from nothing, which ultimately if you're winning trophies you have a special player who can do that.

 

[Bluestar]

Isn’t the rules 105mil over 3 years? And if so why do you keep mentioning 240mil

And also didn’t Moshiri turn some loses into equity?

£240m is what we have actually lost over the last two years. We are allowed £105m loss over three years.

The losses are different to our debt which is ok. The debt was turned into equity I think.

 

[Bluestar]

I agree. Spending vast amounts of money on players with big reputations is not always the route to success. If you look at the mid-80s team there were no real superstars when that team was being assembled but as a team and with an excellent manager it all clicked together and they were fantastic. That was of course a different era and football has changed but in recent history you could argue that Leicester City achieved similar success with many previously unfashionable players

Agree entirely.

The trouble with our crazy spending is that we mostly weren't buying top table players. We were buying the most important players from lesser sides. Nothing wrong with that in principle, but I think we paid a big premium to get them, and quite a few were just rubbish. I also wonder if it has taken time for our current DoF to calibrate himself to PL requirements. A good buy for a Dutch side is different to a good buy for a PL side. There is more opportunity to use the youngsters in a Dutch team and develop them on there is a Premier League side.

 

[BlueToff]

If Benitez didn't think RB was a priority then he's an idiot. I don't think that's the case, however, as we were linked with various RBs.

Apparently Brands was leading up the right-back search. Bentiez didn't rate AMN that highly (hence the loan rather than buy you'd suspect) and asked the club to rebuff any bids for Kenny by deadline day since no move for an incoming RB was looking likely.

I only assume that Benitez wasn't mates with any right-backs he thought could improve us, as that seems to have been the extent of our scouting this window.

Also sums up Brands that he's had years to get a RB sorted, we missed out on his first target (who I think we'd all have been happy with let's be fair) and it took us until the last few weeks of the window to do anything else.

Also saw the right-back at Genk (Colombian lad, Munoz I want to say but I could be wrong) was offered to us this summer but we passed up, according to his agent. Not complaining about that deal cause I know nothing about the lad, but apparently that happened anyway.

Again though, it just seems totally inept how we do things.

It was like Benitez was working on his targets, and Brands was working on his, and ultimately we were just left short. That's not how a DoF works. Not in one bit.

A DoF system works by the recruitment department working with the manager and then the DoF going and brokering those deals. Not by Benitez getting on the phone to his mates.

Rondon on £90k a week, if true, is an effing disgrace. And I've got nothing against the player, but it'd just be completely idiotic.

 

[davids]

Not for me. Rafael Is a better manager than Moyes, yes moyes did well last season and maybe he’s suited to an underdog team. West Ham also hardly had an injuries last season. So that to was a massive help. I have no doubt, like they bottled the chance to get top 4. They will bottle their Q/final in Europe or a cup semi this season.

Nothing will ever change with Moyes, I couldn’t think of anything worse going back to the Moyes/kenwright era

How exactly does the team talk go that makes players bottle a game?

 

[hktoffee]

Sign Aurier for free 2 years deal who must be better than JJK who did not do well in the league up north.

 

[Twinkletoes123]

Sign Aurier for free 2 years deal who must be better than JJK who did not do well in the league up north.

Large signing on fee and no doubt huge wages due to him being on a free.

 

[hktoffee]

Large signing on fee and no doubt huge wages due to him being on a free.

Could be but we can’t rely on JJK who is not PL standard if Coleman is injured.

It’s Brands fault. Why on earth he takes a whole summer without signing a proper right back…

 

[Twinkletoes123]

Could be but we can’t rely on JJK who is not PL standard if Coleman is injured.

It’s Brands fault. Why on earth he takes a whole summer without signing a proper right back…

Keeping my fingers crossed that Benitez can get a tune out of Kenny when he is needed, Iwobi already looks a better player than he has looked previously.

 

[hktoffee]

Keeping my fingers crossed that Benitez can get a tune out of Kenny when he is needed, Iwobi already looks a better player than he has looked previously.

He will be released next summer. No future at the club just that Brands should have accept what the German club or Burnley offered before even a couple of millions.

 

[greener]

Interesting talking to my chum who still works at Southampton FC (bollocks office job though) as apparently the approach to sign Kyle Walker-Peters was just 2 days before the end of the window. If there'd been an extra week to sort something out it would've gone through as the Saints are skint and have been pleased by their bargain buys in that dept. Apparently we also pitched low ? around 12m.

Why always last min scuffles, almost seems like a trademark.

 

[Harryflashman]

Apparently Brands was leading up the right-back search. Bentiez didn't rate AMN that highly (hence the loan rather than buy you'd suspect) and asked the club to rebuff any bids for Kenny by deadline day since no move for an incoming RB was looking likely.

I only assume that Benitez wasn't mates with any right-backs he thought could improve us, as that seems to have been the extent of our scouting this window.

Also sums up Brands that he's had years to get a RB sorted, we missed out on his first target (who I think we'd all have been happy with let's be fair) and it took us until the last few weeks of the window to do anything else.

Also saw the right-back at Genk (Colombian lad, Munoz I want to say but I could be wrong) was offered to us this summer but we passed up, according to his agent. Not complaining about that deal cause I know nothing about the lad, but apparently that happened anyway.

Again though, it just seems totally inept how we do things.

It was like Benitez was working on his targets, and Brands was working on his, and ultimately we were just left short. That's not how a DoF works. Not in one bit.

A DoF system works by the recruitment department working with the manager and then the DoF going and brokering those deals. Not by Benitez getting on the phone to his mates.

Rondon on £90k a week, if true, is an effing disgrace. And I've got nothing against the player, but it'd just be completely idiotic.

This is where for all the stick brands get it’s tough to blame him for the whole thing as it seems we’re neither Arthur nor Martha .

 

[BlueToff]

This is where for all the stick brands get it’s tough to blame him for the whole thing as it seems we’re neither Arthur nor Martha .

That's true but as posters have pointed out he's just signed a nice, fat three-year deal on the proviso that he is the DoF so should be doing DoF things.

A huge part of his remit is recruitment but he seems like the spare **** at a wedding in that regard right now.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

How exactly does the team talk go that makes players bottle a game?

You’re guess is as good as mine, but you’ve obviously forgotten the 2012 fa cup semi. 1 up v one of the worst Liverpool teams in a generation. And I can think of countless games as Everton manager, that we were negative and it cost us. Ok that’s no necessarily bottling, but still it’s poor management.

He would pick the players, the system, the style of play abs make the substitution’s as the game is going on.