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Everton Transfer Thread 2016

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Totally irrelevant. So we now determine "early" based on West Ham?

Our transfer policy shouldn't, and isn't dictated to by West Ham.

We made the move when we did off our own bat.

Today's the 19th. Window opened 1st. A reminder as to what I actually said;



None of my points above can be refuted, they're all valid questions, debate prompting.

My own opinion, which can be refuted, is that as a Club we shouldn't have commented publicly...



Makes no odds who made it public, as a Club we should have standards above Cellino's Leeds.

Our/the manager's narrative changed. Who are Leeds to dictate our response?

Your selected quote is ONE quote. Martinez told plenty of outlets and reporters different things. Here he is, talking to the BBC and talkSPORT saying the deal should be done today;



Players are always put to the manager, he usually bats away with "I'm not prepared to talk about a player under contract..."

We publicly declared our intent and expectation before a deal was done. We never do that and it's not a precedent I'd like to see us continue on.

As for the bid, the rumours have been that we have been interested in Bryam since last summer but the price quoted was too expensive (10m iirc). If that is true then I'm glad we didn't make a bid in the summer and left it to this window. Really don't think this was panicked bid because Coleman picked up an injury.

I agree we possibly could done it a couple of weeks ago, although for all I know that time has been spent agreeing a price with Leeds. However do you genuinely believe that West Ham wouldn't have done the exact same thing as they have this time?

Waiting until the end of the window when there was no chance of that happening might have been better but it is difficult to guess at how negotiations will take - who is to say we wouldn't have run out of time.

I think it very easy on the outside to say we should have been earlier, later, quicker, sexier perhaps with our bid. For once at least the issue doesn't seem to have been the money on offer to either Leeds or the player. However since the primary reason it appear to have been rejected is that the player wanted more game time than we could offer don't think any of it would have made much difference.

On the press side, Martinez made his comments that I quoted at his press conference on the Friday 15th when the bid information was leaked. As you say we could have just left it as no comment but tbh think that is a daft when Leeds were confirming a bid was in, think it better to try and reduce the hype by saying a long way to go but that is a personal preference.

I didn't hear anything in that interview where Martinez said anything about the deal. However it was on the Sunday when multiple reports have him at Finch Farm undergoing a medical and agreeing terms. I agree that we would have been better waiting until everything 100% complete, we're Everton after all! but really don't think the under those circumstances saying to reporters off camera that the deal "should" be done is so egregious.
 
As for the bid, the rumours have been that we have been interested in Bryam since last summer but the price quoted was too expensive (10m iirc). If that is true then I'm glad we didn't make a bid in the summer and left it to this window. Really don't think this was panicked bid because Coleman picked up an injury.

I agree we possibly could done it a couple of weeks ago, although for all I know that time has been spent agreeing a price with Leeds. However do you genuinely believe that West Ham wouldn't have done the exact same thing as they have this time?

Waiting until the end of the window when there was no chance of that happening might have been better but it is difficult to guess at how negotiations will take - who is to say we wouldn't have run out of time.

I think it very easy on the outside to say we should have been earlier, later, quicker, sexier perhaps with our bid. For once at least the issue doesn't seem to have been the money on offer to either Leeds or the player. However since the primary reason it appear to have been rejected is that the player wanted more game time than we could offer don't think any of it would have made much difference.

On the press side, Martinez made his comments that I quoted at his press conference on the Friday 15th when the bid information was leaked. As you say we could have just left it as no comment but tbh think that is a daft when Leeds were confirming a bid was in, think it better to try and reduce the hype by saying a long way to go but that is a personal preference.

I didn't hear anything in that interview where Martinez said anything about the deal. However it was on the Sunday when multiple reports have him at Finch Farm undergoing a medical and agreeing terms. I agree that we would have been better waiting until everything 100% complete, we're Everton after all! but really don't think the under those circumstances saying to reporters off camera that the deal "should" be done is so egregious.


Their Chairman was on skysports new before and he said that they were waiting for his contract to run down in the summer, and that our bid prompted them into moving now. So if we were interested last summer too, the same would have happened then. I think theyve known that he'd be interested in them for a while. Just seems weird that theyve ended up getting him for less than we offered? dont know if thats true.
 

Their Chairman was on skysports new before and he said that they were waiting for his contract to run down in the summer, and that our bid prompted them into moving now. So if we were interested last summer too, the same would have happened then. I think theyve known that he'd be interested in them for a while. Just seems weird that theyve ended up getting him for less than we offered? dont know if thats true.
Reading between the lines of the Yorkshire reporters tweets, their bid matches our bid but there might not be as many add-ons to the deal, he quotes "matches initial bid".

The Leeds chairman certainly seems to think it a worse deal for his club but he's a bit of a loon anyway so perhaps not the most reliable source! My guess would be that West Ham have used the add-on money to sweeten the deal for Bryam's agent and/or wages for Bryam but that is pure speculation without a shred of data to back it up.
 

...nothing we haven't already seen on the latest rumour round up; Naismith has joined Norwich; We are interested in £2m rated Zach Clough from Bolton; Sam Byram is set to join the Hammers; Barcelona are keen on Stones.
 

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