Everton Transfer Thread - Summer 2020

[jamieni]

Improving our side and being good enough or having the potential to be good enough for where we want to be aren't the same.

I think we need to sort out the CM positions as a priority, get some backbone into the team and try to get up the table a bit. We need to be in and around the top 6 and then we can push for the one or two big signings which would take us to the next level. Zaha feels like an expensive gamble to me atm. Not saying he wouldn’t improve the team but I’d rather lash big money on CM as a priority.

 

[Zatara]

We have very few natural players in our team that can travel with the ball under close control, Zaha and Grealish do that and it’s probably their best ability.

Without players that can do this you end up very predictable with the ball just being passed around in front of the opposition defence with no opportunity to cut them open, which is what we have.

In summary we need ball carriers.

Yep, unless im missing something Grealish and Zaha are spoken of so highly they make Villa and Palace seem like one man teams.

Theres the Sigurdsson factor but also the fact that with more space around better players (like Richarlison) they can do more damage.

We seriously lack anyone apart from Gordon who can do this with some semblance of an end product.

....I just don’t think he’s that good, even if Tosun is used as a makeweight.

He’ll often dribble into cul-de-sacs or no-man’s land. It might look flashy that he’s gone past players but there’s no end result. I don’t see him busting a gut to get on the end of crosses from the other wing, I don’t see many goals scored in the 6 yard box.

He’s better than Bolasie but he’s a similar type. All fur coat and no knickers.

...but you have to travel with purpose and Zaha rarely does. I actually thought Grealish was very disappointing when he played against us and there were plenty of derisory comments about his performance against West Ham until he scored.

Couldn’t disagree anymore with that dude

I dont really see Grealish and Zaha as similar players aside from them being able to carry the ball.

Zaha seems to be a pure ball carrier to get up the pitch then go direct and dribble towards goal...while Grealish seems to be less of a dribbler and more of a passer.

Not such a massive fan of Zaha but i do think we need ball carriers. He has experience and around better players under Ancelotti he could be a shrewd signing at a decent fee.

He can also play centre forward which is a good option to have.

I think Sarr is one we certainly have to compete for. I do think he has what Zaha has but given he's around 6 years younger, it'll be a sound business decision. Zaha needs to go to an established side - we wouldn't be right for him and visa versa.

I think Palace have held on to him far too long by the way.

Sarr ??? ??? Zaha
Richarlison DCL
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Doeent look too bad compared to Iwobi/Walcott.

Siggy + Bolasie +Walcott +Tosun no money.

Bernard/Iwobi also perhaps lol

what about the other 6 seasons

Amazing that peeps moan at Brands, then advocate the signing of a non-goal scoring, 28 year old winger who’d want a massive pay day for his final contract

utter madness

isnt he 27 ?

youre so ageist

Richarlison is better but to act like he's somehow miles better is probably just as overboard as saying that it would be a good replacement.

who has said Zaha would be a replacement for richarlison?

Except he's five years younger and on the radar of clubs like Barcelona.

Christ, Richarlison indicates he may like a trophy or two in the future and we're already at the "he was rubbish anyway" stage

He's on the radar because of his age. And that is great for us and why Zaha is a wholly inadequate replacement, but also doesn't mean that currently they aren't in a similar class.

I’d agree Richarlison is a much more effective player.

I mean Richarlison is one of the best players in the premier league.

He'd be considered for the PFA team of the year at one of the top 4 sides.

The boy is brilliant. He gets booted so much we need better players to give him more space.

Over the last 3 seasons Zaha on average has scored around 7-8 goals per season (would have been more had he not downed tools this season).

Not saying he's fantastic but when you add in the amount of penalties he wins you & defenders he occupies leaving space for others he's a massive upgrade on all of our wingers.

If Palace would accept Iwobi/Tosun + cash we could do worse.

I would prefer us looking elsewhere like but with Brands record I would just be happy with a proven player coming in ahead of the current garbage in the squad.

Id be hoping for 10 a season for any wide player we paid £40mil or equivilent for.

I have to say i think Zaha and Sarr on the wings would be very, very good as they would have so much space and keep opposition sides stretched.

Its also a no brainer if we can include a couple of players in a swap.

Is this what’s being reported though? If not, then it is purely speculation that I can’t see happening. That and I don’t see us still being in for him anyways.

Its all speculation.

He has 1 in 5 goal ratio which is atrocious for a club NEEDING to add goals from the wing. He’ll get you 4/5 a season

Topping that remarkable stat is the fact he has the highest amount of poor touches per game.

absolute liability of a footballer

38 ÷ 5 = 7.6 goals a season for Palace.

Having him may also increase Richarlisons numbers with space being freed up...or his legs saved as opposition kicks Zaha.

Not sure on the poor touch stats...he seems either electric or kicked/marked out of the game but still comes alive a couple of times and seems threatening.

Im not a great fan but he'd probably be a consistent 7/10 player for us on the left.

Zaha is a decent player in his own right but would be an awful signing for us. I was just about OK with it last year because I (stupidly) believed we weren't that far away and maybe he could would be enough of an improvement to see us bumped up the league. This year I think we're miles away, and signing him would just be flushing money down the drain.

Sorry i dont get what you mean?

If im not wrong under Ancelotti were 7th in the table so were looking alot better than a season ago in terms of;

Manager
Richarlison / DCL / Holgate improvements
Branthwaite / Gordon on the scene

Im more excited for next season than i was last season...but we need to add 4 quality players imo.

i think with 4 players who can be consistent 7/10 performers we will jump up the league.

Would they want any of our crap deadwood though Zat.

Well they took McCarthy and Tosun last year.

Alot of our players are lowish on fees as their contracts are up in 1-2 seasons.

Iwobi in the deal is key for me...weve done £27mil on him...his book value now is £21.4mil.

If we could shift Iwobi + one more player to palace + some cash id be very very very happy.

 

[Paul Rideout]

Yep, unless im missing something Grealish and Zaha are spoken of so highly they make Villa and Palace seem like one man teams.

Theres the Sigurdsson factor but also the fact that with more space around better players (like Richarlison) they can do more damage.

We seriously lack anyone apart from Gordon who can do this with some semblance of an end product.






I dont really see Grealish and Zaha as similar players aside from them being able to carry the ball.

Zaha seems to be a pure ball carrier to get up the pitch then go direct and dribble towards goal...while Grealish seems to be less of a dribbler and more of a passer.

Not such a massive fan of Zaha but i do think we need ball carriers. He has experience and around better players under Ancelotti he could be a shrewd signing at a decent fee.

He can also play centre forward which is a good option to have.

Sarr ??? ??? Zaha
Richarlison DCL
​

Doeent look too bad compared to Iwobi/Walcott.




Bernard/Iwobi also perhaps lol




isnt he 27 ?

youre so ageist




who has said Zaha would be a replacement for richarlison?







I mean Richarlison is one of the best players in the premier league.

He'd be considered for the PFA team of the year at one of the top 4 sides.

The boy is brilliant. He gets booted so much we need better players to give him more space.



Id be hoping for 10 a season for any wide player we paid £40mil or equivilent for.

I have to say i think Zaha and Sarr on the wings would be very, very good as they would have so much space and keep opposition sides stretched.

Its also a no brainer if we can include a couple of players in a swap.



Its all speculation.



38 ÷ 5 = 7.6 goals a season for Palace.

Having him may also increase Richarlisons numbers with space being freed up...or his legs saved as opposition kicks Zaha.

Not sure on the poor touch stats...he seems either electric or kicked/marked out of the game but still comes alive a couple of times and seems threatening.

Im not a great fan but he'd probably be a consistent 7/10 player for us on the left.




Sorry i dont get what you mean?

If im not wrong under Ancelotti were 7th in the table so were looking alot better than a season ago in terms of;

Manager
Richarlison / DCL / Holgate improvements
Branthwaite / Gordon on the scene

Im more excited for next season than i was last season...but we need to add 4 quality players imo.

i think with 4 players who can be consistent 7/10 performers we will jump up the league.




Well they took McCarthy and Tosun last year.

Alot of our players are lowish on fees as their contracts are up in 1-2 seasons.

Iwobi in the deal is key for me...weve done £27mil on him...his book value now is £21.4mil.

If we could shift Iwobi + one more player to palace + some cash id be very very very happy.

TLDR

 

[Zatara]

Arsenal spent over £70 million on a player deemed "world class"

Spurs spent £65 million on a player deemed "world class"

Every signing is a gamble and Everton are in no position to attract a world class player without European football.

Anyone who cant see how Zaha would instantly improve our side has an obvious agenda.

Not saying we should spend £50 million+ but if we could say offer £25-30 million + Tosun and/or Iwobi its a no brainer

Pepe at Arsenal wasnt deemed world class...nor was Ndombele.

Both (as with all foreign transfers) should be rated after an initial season to adapt -- per Alex Ferguson. Same as Kean for us.

Zaha is a well known player and i think if we rate Iwobi at £25mil + another player with a view to a £40-45mil total package then it makes sense.

Getting 2 players out the door and bringing in Zaha would be sensible imo...

Zaha/Gordon on the left for a minimal cash outlay.

I think we need to sort out the CM positions as a priority, get some backbone into the team and try to get up the table a bit. We need to be in and around the top 6 and then we can push for the one or two big signings which would take us to the next level. Zaha feels like an expensive gamble to me atm. Not saying he wouldn’t improve the team but I’d rather lash big money on CM as a priority.

We wont be able to choose which positions are signed first.

We may well be in for RB/CM/LW/RW/CB all at the same time...but we wont sign players based on top / 2nd priority or any order we'll be compartmentalising each position based on an overall budget.

CM could take longer than any of the other deals...

 

[bitter-no-better]

I’m a bit on the fence about Zaha but he is a an upgrade on any wide player we have. He will make space for others. We have not had a player since Barkley who can carry the ball Forward and create in the final 3rd. His stats will improve in a more attacking team and he will be a big asset away from Goodison on the counter. If we seriously want to push for Europe we need proven players.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Pepe at Arsenal wasnt deemed world class...nor was Ndombele.

Both (as with all foreign transfers) should be rated after an initial season to adapt -- per Alex Ferguson. Same as Kean for us.

Zaha is a well known player and i think if we rate Iwobi at £25mil + another player with a view to a £40-45mil total package then it makes sense.

Getting 2 players out the door and bringing in Zaha would be sensible imo...

Zaha/Gordon on the left for a minimal cash outlay.




We wont be able to choose which positions are signed first.

We may well be in for RB/CM/LW/RW/CB all at the same time...but we wont sign players based on top / 2nd priority or any order we'll be compartmentalising each position based on an overall budget.

CM could take longer than any of the other deals...

Any signing over £65+ million has to be deemed world class or world class potential mate.

But my point is people think any fancy foreign winger valued at £40 million would instantly be better than Zaha when Pepe has proven that to be false.

Near every signing outside of an elite few are a risk I cant stress that enough - regardless of what league they are in and their age.

 

[brieverton]

Zaha would be a very lazy signing. Lazy in terms of just trawling round PL clubs again, looking for a "biggish" name.

Brands on his own should be able to come up with at least 3 feasible signings for every position.

Zaha is not at the level to help improve us significantly, he has burned bridges at Palace, and wouldn't be touched by the bigger clubs.

I'm fairly sure he would join us if we were to bid and match Palaces valuation - he is looking for a bumper pay day now.

Let's not fall into that trap again. I hope its just idle gossip now.

 

[jamieni]

Zaha would be a very lazy signing. Lazy in terms of just trawling round PL clubs again, looking for a "biggish" name.

Brands on his own should be able to come up with at least 3 feasible signings for every position.

Zaha is not at the level to help improve us significantly, he has burned bridges at Palace, and wouldn't be touched by the bigger clubs.

I'm fairly sure he would join us if we were to bid and match Palaces valuation - he is looking for a bumper pay day now.

Let's not fall into that trap again. I hope its just idle gossip now.

I wouldn’t be against it if the money is there to strengthen other positions properly. But throwing the majority of our transfer and wage budget at him would be a major no no for me. That’s the sort of thing that got us into this mess.

 

[Zatara]

Any signing over £65+ million has to be deemed world class or world class potential mate.

But my point is people think any fancy foreign winger valued at £40 million would instantly be better than Zaha when Pepe has proven that to be false.

Near every signing outside of an elite few are a risk I cant stress that enough - regardless of what league they are in and their age.

Well, we dont know what happens with Pepe or Ndombele after their 1 season adaptation period.

Zaha is somewhat of a known quantity but again unknown in that hes been their main player.

Is he rated as hes their star and gets the ball all the time? Could he be effective as one player in a team who isnt the star of the side...

...nothing is certain.

Im attracted if we can shift players out in a swap.

 

[Zatara]

I wouldn’t be against it if the money is there to strengthen other positions properly. But throwing the majority of our transfer and wage budget at him would be a major no no for me. That’s the sort of thing that got us into this mess.

Lets say it was Iwobi + Sigurdsson + £10mil.

Id be all over that deal. Something where we can shift 2 out with a minimal cash amount for him.

Would be very happy with something like that.

 

[nsno-chris]

38 ÷ 5 = 7.6 goals a season for Palace.

Having him may also increase Richarlisons numbers with space being freed up...or his legs saved as opposition kicks Zaha.

Not sure on the poor touch stats...he seems either electric or kicked/marked out of the game but still comes alive a couple of times and seems threatening.

Im not a great fan but he'd probably be a consistent 7/10 player for us on the left.

7 goals ain’t good enough, that’s just a fact. You need 10-15 from each wing and he doesn’t have the composure in front of goal because he’s an average footballer; just look at the jarg freekicks in his arl fellas garden. Utterly horrendous from a pro that.

Secondly, to free up Richarlison and Dom you need a presence from midfield, a runner who will occupy the CB’s through the middle. That ain’t Big Willy Free Style

Third, I apologise.....he has the second worse stats, just slightly behind Joelinton. And that’s all I see and why I compare him to Bolasie, a step over merchant who can’t play a simple pass but looks boss on YouTube

 

[matty1878]

Well, we dont know what happens with Pepe or Ndombele after their 1 season adaptation period.

Zaha is somewhat of a known quantity but again unknown in that hes been their main player.

Is he rated as hes their star and gets the ball all the time? Could he be effective as one player in a team who isnt the star of the side...

...nothing is certain.

Im attracted if we can shift players out in a swap.

Lets say it was Iwobi + Sigurdsson + £10mil.

Id be all over that deal. Something where we can shift 2 out with a minimal cash amount for him.

Would be very happy with something like that.

He isn’t signing zat

 

[jamieni]

I think if we sort out the CM then the players we have already in wide areas might do ok. A decent CM pairing that can win the ball and progress us up the pitch would also take a lot of pressure off the back four. An improved midfield buys us time to bring in the “marquee” signings when we’re at the right end of the table.

 

[nsno-chris]

Any signing over £65+ million has to be deemed world class or world class potential mate.

But my point is people think any fancy foreign winger valued at £40 million would instantly be better than Zaha when Pepe has proven that to be false.

Near every signing outside of an elite few are a risk I cant stress that enough - regardless of what league they are in and their age.

but Salah, Pulisic, Hazard, Ronaldo and a wealth of others haven’t.

Pepe was garbage, but people like you see that stats, see the YouTube videos and stomp your feet that you want them.

Same with Zaha, you can’t look past what you want to see

 

[billyblue80]

I think if we sort out the CM then the players we have already in wide areas might do ok. A decent CM pairing that can win the ball and progress us up the pitch would also take a lot of pressure off the back four. An improved midfield buys us time to bring in the “marquee” signings when we’re at the right end of the table.

Or sort midfield and loan a right winger with an option rather than spending obscene amounts on a over hyped EPL player.