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Everton Transfer Thread - Summer 2020

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Zatara said:
The team doesnt have a "half-decent midfield" youre right, it also doesnt have a defence which isnt so much the sum of its parts but as strong as the weakest link. Thats evidenced by Coleman and/Sidibe + Keane being targeted by opposition players each match.

Ive not seen any evidence to show that Keane/Mina can be a successful partnership. Neither player looks comfortable on the left and neither are vocal nor positive playing out from the back as Ancelotti seems to favour.

The only reliable players who tick those boxes seem to be Holgate (better on the right) and Branthwaite (still young) with possibly Gibson to take into account as well. I also dont think Holgate is "average" in our squad, hes head and shoulders above Mina and to compare him with Keane would be like comparing Koeman and Kendall.

Hypothetically though, lets say we did go with your suggestion of Keane + Mina + Digne + a new right back all in a "low defensive line".

We then add in Allan + Doucoure + a winger (as you wrote) in midfield. The starting position of that midfield almost certainly would need to be sat within our half of the pitch.

Thats the drawback of a lack of defensive pace.

The forwards would also then need to be deep or isolated (which is why teams used to use this tactic and play long ball OR a very slow buildup to move up the pitch). So this negates the threat of the forwards and almost sets up like Burnley but with better forwards.

If it was me, i would sell Keane + sign a carbon copy of Gabriel (or even Tomori on loan as hes rapid) then bring in a right back with pace (Emerson/Aarons).

Those 2 signings would mean we could actually play a VERY high line halfway up the pitch as we know our defenders are faster than most forwards. The amount of offsides would be much higher and in turn, our midfielders would be in the opposition half.

For me, i would have gone Gabriel (LCB) Emerson (RB) Guimaraes (DM) Sarr (RW) or similar. All young high potential positive signings to continue the rebuild of the team.

Allan is top quality and Doucoure adds energy and goals BUT neither of them are more than a 3 year stopgap.

Seeing us sign those 2 and Arias is almost like a 'pause' in the rebuild and we would really need to focus on u21 players to develop for a spend of £70+mil on stopgaps to be worthwhile.
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MarcelsGoat said:
I like the boy, but Zat keeps putting him and Gordon in his side and nobody can say that either will 100% nail down a place.

Branthy looks a very good prospect.

So yes, I agree, very harsh.
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It’s true though. He looks like a great prospect but nowhere near the level of the other 3 and not good enough to be starting in the premier league.

He made mistakes in each other games he played. It’s got to be expected and it’s one of the reasons why I want him out on loan.

To consider him and Gibson ahead of the other three is mental. Same with Nkounkou who has had a half against Blackpool.
 
MarcelsGoat said:
I like the boy, but Zat keeps putting him and Gordon in his side and nobody can say that either will 100% nail down a place.

Branthy looks a very good prospect.

So yes, I agree, very harsh.
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Squad...not side...SQUAD.

Not sure why you think Mina + Keane are better on the left of defence than the right.

I mean anyone watching the games can see they arent.
 

MarcelsGoat said:
I think its laughable you consider Holgate, after 1 season and Branthwaite, 3 or 4 mistake-filled games, as reliable players, but then throw shade at Keane, who was head and shoulders our most reliable player after the restart and Mina who starred in a World Cup a few years ago.

Laughable.

Im not saying Holgate is a bad player, I like him a lot, hes got bags of potential, same for Branthy, but judge them on their talent, not their age.

We have plenty of young players, in most positions, signing a few experienced players wont pause anything, if they all perform as they have through their careers they will improve us, short term yes, but by then we will no doubt have players ready to step in.

Young players wont stay much longer than 3 years anyway, yes we will get a resale, but you are the 1 telling us we lose 18 players over the next 3 years, so we should have plenty of wiggle room to pick up a few younger players, which is what Brands has stated we will do.

Carlo aint here to build a long term squad, hes here to compete, next season, he aint here to babysit.
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Your flogging a dead horse trying to convince people Michael Keane is our most consistent defender.

Holgate and mina are both far far better than Keane.

I agree on branthwaite though, whereas he's looked good in the games he still has a lot to learn before he can start consistently.

Keane wasn't by far our most reliable player after the restart either btw, another myth, we only kept two clean sheets one of which was against one or the worst ever premiership teams.
 
Carloblues said:
Your flogging a dead horse trying to convince people Michael Keane is our most consistent defender.

Holgate and mina are both far far better than Keane.

I agree on branthwaite though, whereas he's looked good in the games he still has a lot to learn before he can start consistently.

Keane wasn't by far our most reliable player after the restart either btw, another myth, we only kept two clean sheets one of which was against one or the worst ever premiership teams.
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Keane is far more reliable than Mina for me. Mina is more injury prone and makes more errors.

The idea we should sell Keane is just daft and Ancelotti won't even be considering it.
 
People are going way way overboard on Holgate and Branthwaite. Holgate needs to show he's really found a consistent level before proclaiming he's the next Kaiser. Branthwaite did enough to suggest CB isn't a priority but again we've barely seen the lad. Much more to do to earn the plaudits yet.
 
Terrarian said:
People are going way way overboard on Holgate and Branthwaite. Holgate needs to show he's really found a consistent level before proclaiming he's the next Kaiser. Branthwaite did enough to suggest CB isn't a priority but again we've barely seen the lad. Much more to do to earn the plaudits yet.
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Stop your common sense approach. In here it'll be seen as heresy!
 

ToffeeTim said:
Keane is far more reliable than Mina for me. Mina is more injury prone and makes more errors.

The idea we should sell Keane is just daft and Ancelotti won't even be considering it.
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People love myths on here don't they. lm pretty sure keane played a couple more games than mina in total.

Mina was our best player for the first half of the season, he was absolutely quality.
 

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