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Everton Transfer Thread - Summer 2020

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Mate Gibson was never fit , Howard was crap, Neville was bag average and Saha was quality but had injury problems ( if he didn’t he would still have been at Man U) . We also signed Morgan who was one of the biggest frauds in our squad until recently and on massive wages. Rooney came and people can argue if he was a success or not but his huge wages meant we couldn’t keep him. The only time I would say signing a player from them has been a compete, 100%, unanimous opinion amongst fans is kanchelskis

Howard was decent and much better that the clown we have right now. I believe Neville was above average, but even if he was average, that's better that the non-existent total cack we have in the middle of the park right now. Saha did okay for us. I agree that Schneiderlin and Rooney were wank buys.

I'm not advocating the old and tired buy-manc policy. I'm just saying there were a few successes amongst the crap. What I don't want to see, is Marcel Brands being lauded as somekind of mastermind for making use of the 20 year old buy-manc policy, especially for someone as crap as Delph!
 
Your aversion to older experienced professionals is well known Zat. But I'm sick and tired of buying very expensive 'potential' that turns out to be absolute cack that we can't get rid of.

There are serious doubts about Usmanov's level of involvement at Everton right now. And in fairness, there is also a concurrent 600 million pound new stadium project on the go. So maybe his assistance is going to be used there, rather than spending 25 million pound on players that need an ambulance each time that they kick a ball.

With that it mind, maybe it is time to return to the tactics of yesteryear. The transfer tactics that were seen under Moyes and Kenwright and were far more successful than what we have now. Or perhaps a mixture of the two.


1. PICK UP THE FREE TRANSFERS:

Willian walks into our team next season and the season afterwards. Maybe his quality will subside in the third year, but that's the cost of getting him on a free. Also, ANY player that enters the last year of their contract loses value. The net benefit is a big improvement on our RM for at least two years.

PSG are currently keeping hold of Thiago Silva because they will end up playing him in the Champions League final should they make it there. I really shouldn't have to explain why he would benefit us for a year or two.

Ryan Fraser. Oh how we laugh about how crap he is! And yet he's got some very decent stats and by all accounts is an aggressive Scottish dwarf! I'd much rather have an aggressive Scottish dwarf than some tiny Brazillian elf that brags about having panic attacks!

He must have a value of at least 15 million pound and he is available on a free. Go and pick him up! He would be an improvement on our awful left hand side brought in for free, at a time where we supposedly really need to be wary of FFP. If FFP is really such an issue, we'd be mad not to pick him up.


2. SELL THE CACK!

Maybe this should be done before the above, but we have an awful lot of cack to get rid of. We need to bin Bernard! He's our highest earner and he is crap! Again, if FFP is so important than selling him would be the best move we could do this summer. Get rid! Same applies to Iwobi.

Michael Keane should be sold before he reverts back to the player that he has been for the previous three years! Get 20 million plus for him and bring in one of these new highly rated defenders. Gabriel, or whoever.

If we were to sell Keane, it would only be bottom half clubs interested in him, so please don't do something daft like offering him a new contract until he's 30 or something. It's just keeping hold of bottom half players, and it would be so typical of us if we did that on the back of three weeks worth of decent form in empty stadiums. Please don't!

I don't need to go through everyone else who needs binning. You know who they are, and most of them play in central midfield. Delph, Davies, Sigurdsson, Gomes, none of them are anywhere near good enough. All of them will be on their way down to inferior teams should they somehow be sold .


BUY 3 NEW PLAYERS!

At least 2, hopefully 3. The first two should be CM's. Ancelotti rates Allan and he looks like the type of combative attacking midfielder that we need on the videos I've seen. Hojbjerg is 24 years old and in his final year at Southampton. Saints will want £30m, but they will end up getting £20m, unless they want to have a Barkley situation where he goes for 12m in January.

If we can afford a right back as well, then we should get one.

On the basis we can only afford three new players, we would then look like this.

Dodgy Pickford​

Coleman Silva Gabriel Digne

Willian Hojbjerg Allan Fraser
DCL Richarlison​
It may not be perfect but the midfield has been totally overhauled and much improved. The defence is at least as strong, and if we actually got Gabriel possibly even better, as he is supposedly creative as well.


Yeah made up you’re not the director of football
 
Yesterday showed just how far away we are. We have a world class manager need a team to match. 5 players for the team LCB DM RW CM RB that is order of priority. Ideally another RW and another CB but that depends on getting rid off some of the rubbish we have stockpiled.
 

Ryan Fraser. Oh how we laugh about how crap he is! And yet he's got some very decent stats and by all accounts is an aggressive Scottish dwarf! I'd much rather have an aggressive Scottish dwarf than some tiny Brazillian elf that brags about having panic attacks!

[Poor language removed] hell mate that's a shocker of a comment. Don't agree with picking fun at a guy dealing with mental health issues.
 
Going to be an interesting window, definitely.

CM is an absolute necessity - 2 x starters if finance/scouting the right targets allows. Hopefully Kenny can do a job at RB (don't think Sidibe is good enough) and a CB would be nice, but if we can bring through a U23 CB then I think Holgate and Keane (under Carlo's tutelage) are starters, with Yerry and The Kid providing backup; not ideal but allows us to focus on this horrendous midfield.

Iwobi should probably be given chance to prove himself and I agree with whoever said keep Theo as backup but the rest of our wide players aren't worth a carrot (not including Gordon in that because I am not sure he'd be a wide player long-term).

My semi-realistic wish list would be:

OUT:

Gomes (soz, I know he's handsome and that but I can't see him getting any better) - Hopefully get £15m or so from a middling La Liga side

Davies - I want to say on loan because I want him to get better, but if not take £8m-£10m from a newly-promoted side or a naive German side trying to emulate the Dortmund model (get Jonjoe to put a word in)

Siggy - Surely we could get £15m-£20m from a Serie A club? His (lack of) pace suits that league to a tee

Tosun - Honestly I don't care. Someone in Turkey can have him for a bag of Skittles

Bernard - I desperately want to love him for what he CAN do, but his deficiencies are so glaring and I can't see him overcoming them. Maybe Villareal as a replacement for Cazorla?

Other than Kenny, the players on loan can all GTFO if we find buyers, and all. Obvs that means we're stuck with Sandro and Bolasie for another year...

IN:

CM destroyer - Would love Gbamin to get/stay fit and be a powerhouse, but what are the chances?

CM - The kind of player loads of you think Gomes is would be nice

LW - Assuming we're sticking with 4-4-2. Would be good to find a partner for Digne that would hark back to the Baines/Pienaar glory days. Someone who has the confidence to come inside, make room for the overlap and actually gets in the box and weighs in with 5-10 goals a season

RW - Someone with the Walcott pace (of old) and work ethic to get back and help out but with some semblance of an end product. Anything more than disastrous decision making would be a upgrade

ST - I haven't suggested dumping Kean because I continue to hope Carlo can get the lad under his wing and bring out his potential, but he probably won't. With the (lack of) funds at our disposal this will probably be a loan, or another punt on a promising youngster.

TL;DR: We're garbage.
I think your angel delight has been spiked

The baines/pienaar glory days lol. Never won anything or even made top 4. Why don’t we call the the Van den hauwe/sheedy

Anyway Keane isn’t good enough unless you sit really deep, him and Mina got the run around by ings last night. We definitely need a CB. Mina is better than Keane imo, he just doesn’t look fit at the minute.
 
Your aversion to older experienced professionals is well known Zat. But I'm sick and tired of buying very expensive 'potential' that turns out to be absolute cack that we can't get rid of.

There are serious doubts about Usmanov's level of involvement at Everton right now. And in fairness, there is also a concurrent 600 million pound new stadium project on the go. So maybe his assistance is going to be used there, rather than spending 25 million pound on players that need an ambulance each time that they kick a ball.

With that it mind, maybe it is time to return to the tactics of yesteryear. The transfer tactics that were seen under Moyes and Kenwright and were far more successful than what we have now. Or perhaps a mixture of the two.


1. PICK UP THE FREE TRANSFERS:

Willian walks into our team next season and the season afterwards. Maybe his quality will subside in the third year, but that's the cost of getting him on a free. Also, ANY player that enters the last year of their contract loses value. The net benefit is a big improvement on our RM for at least two years.

PSG are currently keeping hold of Thiago Silva because they will end up playing him in the Champions League final should they make it there. I really shouldn't have to explain why he would benefit us for a year or two.

Ryan Fraser. Oh how we laugh about how crap he is! And yet he's got some very decent stats and by all accounts is an aggressive Scottish dwarf! I'd much rather have an aggressive Scottish dwarf than some tiny Brazillian elf that brags about having panic attacks!

He must have a value of at least 15 million pound and he is available on a free. Go and pick him up! He would be an improvement on our awful left hand side brought in for free, at a time where we supposedly really need to be wary of FFP. If FFP is really such an issue, we'd be mad not to pick him up.


2. SELL THE CACK!

Maybe this should be done before the above, but we have an awful lot of cack to get rid of. We need to bin Bernard! He's our highest earner and he is crap! Again, if FFP is so important than selling him would be the best move we could do this summer. Get rid! Same applies to Iwobi.

Michael Keane should be sold before he reverts back to the player that he has been for the previous three years! Get 20 million plus for him and bring in one of these new highly rated defenders. Gabriel, or whoever.

If we were to sell Keane, it would only be bottom half clubs interested in him, so please don't do something daft like offering him a new contract until he's 30 or something. It's just keeping hold of bottom half players, and it would be so typical of us if we did that on the back of three weeks worth of decent form in empty stadiums. Please don't!

I don't need to go through everyone else who needs binning. You know who they are, and most of them play in central midfield. Delph, Davies, Sigurdsson, Gomes, none of them are anywhere near good enough. All of them will be on their way down to inferior teams should they somehow be sold .


BUY 3 NEW PLAYERS!

At least 2, hopefully 3. The first two should be CM's. Ancelotti rates Allan and he looks like the type of combative attacking midfielder that we need on the videos I've seen. Hojbjerg is 24 years old and in his final year at Southampton. Saints will want £30m, but they will end up getting £20m, unless they want to have a Barkley situation where he goes for 12m in January.

If we can afford a right back as well, then we should get one.

On the basis we can only afford three new players, we would then look like this.

Dodgy Pickford​

Coleman Silva Gabriel Digne

Willian Hojbjerg Allan Fraser
DCL Richarlison​
It may not be perfect but the midfield has been totally overhauled and much improved. The defence is at least as strong, and if we actually got Gabriel possibly even better, as he is supposedly creative as well.
It’s not bad but Fraser is bang average. Let’s save the 20mil he will cost and give Gordon next season down the left. Anyway we aren’t interested in Fraser, that rumour has been put to bed.

And I’m getting to point of actually hating Coleman, he’s just so bad on the ball? That it massively affects our right side. Last night ball dropping out the sky, he’s getting there before the Southampton player. And kicks it 20yards out for a throw, when he was trying to trap it. If we don’t buy a RB, I’d give kenny a season, he’s got to be better than Coleman on the ball
 
Going to be an interesting window, definitely.

CM is an absolute necessity - 2 x starters if finance/scouting the right targets allows. Hopefully Kenny can do a job at RB (don't think Sidibe is good enough) and a CB would be nice, but if we can bring through a U23 CB then I think Holgate and Keane (under Carlo's tutelage) are starters, with Yerry and The Kid providing backup; not ideal but allows us to focus on this horrendous midfield.

Iwobi should probably be given chance to prove himself and I agree with whoever said keep Theo as backup but the rest of our wide players aren't worth a carrot (not including Gordon in that because I am not sure he'd be a wide player long-term).

My semi-realistic wish list would be:

OUT:

Gomes (soz, I know he's handsome and that but I can't see him getting any better) - Hopefully get £15m or so from a middling La Liga side

Davies - I want to say on loan because I want him to get better, but if not take £8m-£10m from a newly-promoted side or a naive German side trying to emulate the Dortmund model (get Jonjoe to put a word in)

Siggy - Surely we could get £15m-£20m from a Serie A club? His (lack of) pace suits that league to a tee

Tosun - Honestly I don't care. Someone in Turkey can have him for a bag of Skittles

Bernard - I desperately want to love him for what he CAN do, but his deficiencies are so glaring and I can't see him overcoming them. Maybe Villareal as a replacement for Cazorla?

Other than Kenny, the players on loan can all GTFO if we find buyers, and all. Obvs that means we're stuck with Sandro and Bolasie for another year...

IN:

CM destroyer - Would love Gbamin to get/stay fit and be a powerhouse, but what are the chances?

CM - The kind of player loads of you think Gomes is would be nice

LW - Assuming we're sticking with 4-4-2. Would be good to find a partner for Digne that would hark back to the Baines/Pienaar glory days. Someone who has the confidence to come inside, make room for the overlap and actually gets in the box and weighs in with 5-10 goals a season

RW - Someone with the Walcott pace (of old) and work ethic to get back and help out but with some semblance of an end product. Anything more than disastrous decision making would be a upgrade

ST - I haven't suggested dumping Kean because I continue to hope Carlo can get the lad under his wing and bring out his potential, but he probably won't. With the (lack of) funds at our disposal this will probably be a loan, or another punt on a promising youngster.

TL;DR: We're garbage.

Wholesale changes for another year! Brill
 

Well if he doesn’t fit the formation and he isn’t fit then don’t play him. He just winds me up now, players casually running past him , silly fouls given away massive gaps in the centre of midfield. He not the answer.
He clearly isn't fit and I agree he shouldn't be playing. He's a liability at the moment and should be sparingly used whilst his fitness is built up.

Who would you play in that position at the moment?
 

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