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Everton Youth Teams Thread

Everton u23s lose 3-1 at City who now go top thanks to man utd comming from 4-2 down to win 6-4 v the leaders Blackburn,
Everton actually started better the 2nd half as well
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Everton stay 5th and now play away at Spurs Friday midday next week - that game wont be on Live i would say as Spurs never show Games live, and doubt Everton may do it

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Meanwhile 6th placed Everton u18s will be playing there 1st game in 3 weeks since winning 2-1 at Blackburn, saturday home to 10th placed newcastle u18s
with kick off been 12.30 [as long as not called off late etc]. Newcastle have 2 wins only with 3 of there last away defeats comming after conceeding 4 goals each game - Go back to last season and each of the last 4 away defeats has been by conceeding 4 goals
 

blueloon said:
In answer to your earlier post, I’ve been tracking the decreasing average age of u18/23 on here for about 18 months and looking back the first signs of change were occurring in May/ June 2019. We let three or four good u18s go then , including one who’d captained the team , they were deemed not good enough but in previous years we’d have about 10 moving up, then it was down to 4or5 . The U23s were bloated and a number of younger players just weren’t getting games when they initially moved up - Einar Iversen comes to mind. Making the U23s less bloated has taken 18 months, and in the past playing u18s at U23s level didn’t happen that much for a few years. Some weren’t ready and “It’s a big step up” was the message.

In August 19 , the first noticeable changes occurred at u18 where we usually played a few promising schoolboys after Christmas and towards the end of the season. For me it was startling, at the start of the season we suddenly had as many as 5 school kids in a squad , with Reece Welch starting just about every game and others like Isaac Price, Luke Butterfield, Charlie Whitaker and Katia Kouyate making regular appearances before Christmas . Of these 5 , 18 months on all but Whittaker have played at U23s. The pattern of progress is becoming clear. They were also helped by some good first year Scholars, Onyango, Dobbin, McAllister which meant the u18s had a much lower age, and weren’t mainly 2nd years. I think Brands had a large part in setting this strategy , aided by Paul Tait and also having good players to implement it.

Meanwhile, the U23s was getting younger too , players were being moved on and Onyango and Dobbin were getting involved last season, when they were 1st years, something which had been rare previously. When Carlo came in he had an impact by inviting Unsworth’s to watch the first team training, appeared at U23s games with Brands and Dunc and encouraged Unsworth to get the U23s training and playing more like the first team . The results were clear when Onyango and Small came on in the cup, they fitted in straight away. Interestingly Small has played the last two U23s games in an advanced position ahead of the left back, much as he did in the FA cup and similar to when Digne played there in front of Godfrey ( Leicester game?) . This coordination can only help player development if they are asked to step up.

So far we have had 3 schoolboys debut at u18, I expect 2 more before the end of the season , so that trend continues. Depending on injuries I can see Welch establishing himself as the right centre back at U23s this season and when his ban ends Kouyate being the main striker . While he’s far , far away from the first team I could see Kouyate filling in in some 1st team training sessions given our lack of strikers throughout the club. None of this guarantees more academy players will reach the first team of course, but you would believe the clearer pathway will have an impact if we have the right players. Apologies for the long post!
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Great post, thanks for that. Good to see age average decreasing. Just one observation, Unsworth has been encouraged to play the same system as the first team, giving that we mainly play what's it called nowadays the "Low Block" or defend deep and hope for a moment of brilliance or a set piece. We concede possession regularly, i don't think this is the way to develop players?
 

edge said:
One thing stuck out to me ,for all those goals nobody went towards the player to win the ball just get the opposition player to go a diffrent direction and jockey them.
Not the kids fault but we dont really have that many at the club who can put a decent tackle in , suppose its modern football.
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I thought playing with a 3/5 was always going to be difficult against a City team with Tommy Doyle controlling the middle. There wasn’t enough man power in the middle at times with just Onyango and Price trying to pick them up. I thought Price did well , and it looked like he’d been told to mark Doyle after about 40 mins , had a wee scrappy with him once .
 

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