Farhad Moshiri

[Stan Lee Park]

Let start by saying that I agree fully with your first paragraph re the 1980's team and Peter Johnson, followed by Kenwright and Moyes. But am I understanding you correctly - you think Koeman is a worse manager than Martinez?

As for the summer transfer window... Stek, Williams and Gana are all upgrades on the players they have replaced. Bolasie arguably is too, even if his fee was uncomfortably high. Are they good enough to be long-term starters for us? Probably not, but the harm done by Martinez was never going to be undone in one window. Just as Martinez cannot take all the credit for his first season (much of what that team did well was down to Moyes), Koeman cannot take all the blame for this season. Much of what is currently wrong is down to Martinez, and unless we drop £200m in one window, it's going to take a while to cure. The fact remains, we are doing better than we were this time last year.

I don't think there is enough evidence yet to say whether Koeman is a worse manager than Martinez. What is evident is that Martinez in his first season had us playing attractive football and winning games whereas Koeman has us playing sterile football and losing games. As for transfers, I think Stekelenberg is an an improvement on Robles, but is not a long-term solution; Gana is a revelation; Williams is certainly not an improvement on John Stones and Bolassie is not an improvement on anybody. Valencia will soon be gone.
Finally, I agree that it will take time and money to do something about it, but I'm not totally convinced that Moshiri will provide the money or that Koeman is the best person to spend it. I hope I'm wrong, but the evidence to date doesn't inspire me.

 

[Scilachi]

Well the next 6 weeks will be telling. My optimism has turned to pessimism. We ll see. Just hope he just has nt purchashed PG holding to keep Bill in place until the BHS [Poor language removed] disappears - surely not eh?

 

[orly]

Have mentioned this before. We are weak in setpieces (in general) because the team is filled with small players (physically/height).

Yes, and it was wrong the first time so I'm not sure why you repeated it

 

[ToffeeTim]

False dawn innit.

 

[Bakodaeko]

He doesn't own the club.

 

[Thisgeezershat]

My guess is around the same place tbh. We've been a "meh" team for a while, and as much as I hate to admit it, we look like we may be a "meh" team for a while yet. That's for all the others though. I still love us and I'll still watch us whether we're world beaters or not.

 

[hibbo'sclass]

Genuine question mate, has Moshiri cleared the debts from his own pocket, or has the club cleared the debt?

Genuine answer - the only debt that is proven to have been cleared is the Prudential Trustees loan (ticket sales) debt.
There is nothing in the public domain to suggest that the loan taken out from Rights and Media Funding Ltd (formerly JG Funding) in 2015 has been repaid as the charge is still registered at Companies House. If repaid prior to the final audit report date, will probably be noted in the accounts.
Similarly another charge is outstanding to RMF when either a facility or loan was agreed this year (August time). This may or may not have been utilised. The accounts may note this.
So sweeping statements about us being debt free are potentially misleading.
The source of the money to repay the loan may possibly be divulged in the accounts.
If anyone tries to tell you anything else, they are either seriously in the know and will be able to back it up with something tangible, or are putting their own spin on bits and bats they've heard on the internet.
Not much help, terribly boring, but if you deal only with absolutes you tend not to go too wrong.

 

[magicjuan]

If I have to explain it I am wasting my time.

It really doesn't matter.

It does matter. You appear to be having an open dig at Evertonians.

could you explain?

 

[bluestevon]

Let start by saying that I agree fully with your first paragraph re the 1980's team and Peter Johnson, followed by Kenwright and Moyes. But am I understanding you correctly - you think Koeman is a worse manager than Martinez?

As for the summer transfer window... Stek, Williams and Gana are all upgrades on the players they have replaced. Bolasie arguably is too, even if his fee was uncomfortably high. Are they good enough to be long-term starters for us? Probably not, but the harm done by Martinez was never going to be undone in one window. Just as Martinez cannot take all the credit for his first season (much of what that team did well was down to Moyes), Koeman cannot take all the blame for this season. Much of what is currently wrong is down to Martinez, and unless we drop £200m in one window, it's going to take a while to cure. The fact remains, we are doing better than we were this time last year.

Was going through my head the calibre and number of players we need to bring in to get tgecteam turned,around and Christ I stopped when I got past about 120m and still had 4-5 spots we'd be weak and needing players at, monumental task and investment needed in this squad.

We will drop a fair but of money in January - around 75m would be a guess with us bringing back about 30m from sales.

The rest will be in the summer and will be large part funded by a lukaku sale.

 

[Prevenger17]

Papa Shango hates Everton fans. Sad to see, really

 

[magicjuan]

The BU are a bunch of scumbags. They certainly dont speak for me no matter how they try to make out that they do.

I get that the board are not the best ever but they have not took is into oblivion or anything either. Things could have been much much worse. I you look at what has happened at other clubs and what happened with Everton it makes the whole plane flying and clown cake carrying stuff look absolutely ludicrous. Which it is.

In my opinion, obviously.

So, ever since DK was first mooted we have had a split fanbase, Kenwright's living legacy. He lost, he gambled and lost, badly.

The B.U. don't speak for me either, they are a collective of likeminded Evertonians that decided to do something, anything at all, to kick the stupor from the club, a hell of a lot more than most Evertonians, which I would expect includes you?

And you call them scumbags? You're living Bill's dream for him, well done you. Calling Evertonians scumbags.... genius stuff.

 

[ToffeeTim]

So, ever since DK was first mooted we have had a split fanbase, Kenwright's living legacy. He lost, he gambled and lost, badly.

The B.U. don't speak for me either, they are a collective of likeminded Evertonians that decided to do something, anything at all, to kick the stupor from the club, a hell of a lot more than most Evertonians, which I would expect includes you?

And you call them scumbags? You're living Bill's dream for him, well done you. Calling Evertonians scumbags.... genius stuff.

Aw come on now mate, these are the best owners a fanbase could ever dream of. They've been here nearly 20 years and haven't even sank us into oblivion yet. Just look at huge clubs like Pompey. That could have been our plucky little Everton yenno.

NSNO
CLAP CLAP CLAP

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Genuine answer - the only debt that is proven to have been cleared is the Prudential Trustees loan (ticket sales) debt.
There is nothing in the public domain to suggest that the loan taken out from Rights and Media Funding Ltd (formerly JG Funding) in 2015 has been repaid as the charge is still registered at Companies House. If repaid prior to the final audit report date, will probably be noted in the accounts.
Similarly another charge is outstanding to RMF when either a facility or loan was agreed this year (August time). This may or may not have been utilised. The accounts may note this.
So sweeping statements about us being debt free are potentially misleading.
The source of the money to repay the loan may possibly be divulged in the accounts.
If anyone tries to tell you anything else, they are either seriously in the know and will be able to back it up with something tangible, or are putting their own spin on bits and bats they've heard on the internet.
Not much help, terribly boring, but if you deal only with absolutes you tend not to go too wrong.

Unless it's there in front of me in black and white mate I always take it as it actually hasn't happened.

 

[ham2]

The BU are a bunch of scumbags. They certainly dont speak for me no matter how they try to make out that they do.

I get that the board are not the best ever but they have not took is into oblivion or anything either. Things could have been much much worse. I you look at what has happened at other clubs and what happened with Everton it makes the whole plane flying and clown cake carrying stuff look absolutely ludicrous. Which it is.

In my opinion, obviously.

Meh

 

[Woolly Blue]

That's because I've not shown you the crap parts.

I worked there ( and Swanwick ) on and off for about ten years mate and wandered into the bad parts by mistake !