davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I wish it was that simple mate.
Reality is we are controlled by a far worse man who will destroy us.
Reality is we are controlled by a far worse man who will destroy us.
Magus
Player Valuation: £8m
Couldn't agree more, and the decision to appoint Allardyce is symptomatic of the same flawed thinking, although we didn't appear to have much choice due to timing and the atrocious form of the team.
If we avoid a relegation scrap we really need a rethink in the summer.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
We had five weeks to get a new FT manager in. How long did it take Leicester to appoint Puel?
Kaiser Soysauce
Player Valuation: £10m
Said it before. In microsoft excel 2.4 + 2.4 = 4.8 shows as 2 + 2 = 5 if you format to zero decimal places. Just saying.
#COYB
bullybeef
Player Valuation: £40m
Add Walsh and Koeman too.
Really hard to believe that someone who made a billion quid working for an oligarch, in that period of time in Russian history, where everyone was trying every trick in the book to swindle eachother, is burning through hundreds of millions on the advice without any sort of due diligence.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
He’s been evertoned. Pumped moneybin and we got worse. Only at Everton.
As others have said, he didn't worry about plans. He used money instead.
Plans that focus on money are no plans at all.
Plans that focus on money are no plans at all.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
He has certainly shown poor judgement, and for a guy versed in doing business in Russia and the Former Soviet Republics, where secrecy and denial are the order of the day, he has let his mouth run loose on more than one occasion, the voodoo comments on Tuesday being the most recent example.
I never actually expected him to be shoveling barrels of his own cash in, other than in equity, so I'll let him pass on that score.
What I did and do expect is that we would be far further down the line now with a commercial, business, and media overhaul at the club, and he has done little of note in that arena. The SportPesa and USM deals are relatively small fare in comparison with our rivals. I know there are restrictions, but SportPesa in particular reeks of Elstone, and USM is a hand-out from a mate.
Whether I was buying a 49pc stake in a PL Football club, or a family newsagents, the first condition of purchase other than price is surely taking a look at the guy running the operation day-to-day and whilst its very easy to say here, I simply wouldn't be entrusting that responsibility to Elstone from minute one. He compromised there and the club are much worse off as a result.
BMD to my mind also looks less rather than more likely as a result of this weeks meeting. It doesn't take a huge leap to conclude that funding in the private /commercial finance sphere was sought and rebuffed. Instead, we are being asked to swallow that the council and EFC simply arrived at the council funding model on a "why didn't we think of this earlier" basis, as it is such a good idea for all concerned. Joe Anderson is too far down the road with us on this to allow his pride take a dent, but he isn't there forever, and the political atmosphere for such a funding arrangement is toxic and will continue to be into the foreseeable future. Everton would have a far stronger case for council funding if they had secured and announced the remaining 1/3 themselves in time for the meeting. But, this too, still awaits, and one must draw the rather obvious conclusions in the wake of Elstone's ominous hints regarding spiralling costs and " challenges"
The biggest failing at the club now though, is on the pitch. I think it would be unfair to blame Moshiri for the outcome with Koeman - even if the warning signs were there from the off - Koeman and his team have wreaked absolute havoc on the squad and returned us to the Walter Smith days.
Moshiri did cock-up enormously though in having no succession plan when Koeman was fired, leaving us with seemingly no option than to hire Allardyce in the end, and it made us look incompetent and amateurish yet again, with the word shambles associated with the club in the media for weeks on end.
I simply cannot see how Steve Walsh is still in a job either, when surely he is equally as culpable as Koeman for the disastrous outcome regarding transfers.
It makes for a pretty poor report card for Moshiri. On a personal level, he seems like a nice guy, a genuine football fan, with positive and honest good intentions. But I fit those criteria too. It's not enough for this club, nowhere near enough. Sadly he is failing, and the evidence of that failure becomes more apparent each month.
I never actually expected him to be shoveling barrels of his own cash in, other than in equity, so I'll let him pass on that score.
What I did and do expect is that we would be far further down the line now with a commercial, business, and media overhaul at the club, and he has done little of note in that arena. The SportPesa and USM deals are relatively small fare in comparison with our rivals. I know there are restrictions, but SportPesa in particular reeks of Elstone, and USM is a hand-out from a mate.
Whether I was buying a 49pc stake in a PL Football club, or a family newsagents, the first condition of purchase other than price is surely taking a look at the guy running the operation day-to-day and whilst its very easy to say here, I simply wouldn't be entrusting that responsibility to Elstone from minute one. He compromised there and the club are much worse off as a result.
BMD to my mind also looks less rather than more likely as a result of this weeks meeting. It doesn't take a huge leap to conclude that funding in the private /commercial finance sphere was sought and rebuffed. Instead, we are being asked to swallow that the council and EFC simply arrived at the council funding model on a "why didn't we think of this earlier" basis, as it is such a good idea for all concerned. Joe Anderson is too far down the road with us on this to allow his pride take a dent, but he isn't there forever, and the political atmosphere for such a funding arrangement is toxic and will continue to be into the foreseeable future. Everton would have a far stronger case for council funding if they had secured and announced the remaining 1/3 themselves in time for the meeting. But, this too, still awaits, and one must draw the rather obvious conclusions in the wake of Elstone's ominous hints regarding spiralling costs and " challenges"
The biggest failing at the club now though, is on the pitch. I think it would be unfair to blame Moshiri for the outcome with Koeman - even if the warning signs were there from the off - Koeman and his team have wreaked absolute havoc on the squad and returned us to the Walter Smith days.
Moshiri did cock-up enormously though in having no succession plan when Koeman was fired, leaving us with seemingly no option than to hire Allardyce in the end, and it made us look incompetent and amateurish yet again, with the word shambles associated with the club in the media for weeks on end.
I simply cannot see how Steve Walsh is still in a job either, when surely he is equally as culpable as Koeman for the disastrous outcome regarding transfers.
It makes for a pretty poor report card for Moshiri. On a personal level, he seems like a nice guy, a genuine football fan, with positive and honest good intentions. But I fit those criteria too. It's not enough for this club, nowhere near enough. Sadly he is failing, and the evidence of that failure becomes more apparent each month.
its like he fell lucky being Usmanov`s accountant, and probably Usmanov advised him to invest
I feel that Mosh couldnt deliver a pizza let alone a stadium
He seems to act and then think later. Real ambition would have been to keep our young stars
and not replace with old has beens. The argument that the`players wanted to leave` does not
fly with me, Lukaku said he wanted to see players coming in, and lost faith in Moshiri when good available players
went elsewhere.
No voodoo just simple loss of faith in the man at the top and his Bull***
I feel that Mosh couldnt deliver a pizza let alone a stadium
He seems to act and then think later. Real ambition would have been to keep our young stars
and not replace with old has beens. The argument that the`players wanted to leave` does not
fly with me, Lukaku said he wanted to see players coming in, and lost faith in Moshiri when good available players
went elsewhere.
No voodoo just simple loss of faith in the man at the top and his Bull***
funkygibson
Player Valuation: £5m
Correct, on the advice of frauds like kenwright elstone Walsh etc but more fool him for not having the wherewithal to see through it. I believe he has the intention of making us successful but due to his only relatively recent interest in football he doesn’t understand the complexities of running it well. He needs todo himself a favour and get rid of the frauds bring a football man like David dein in at the top to sort the mess below
billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
For a billionaire he's come in with a shocking lack of strategy.
Good point about David Dein, we need somebody like him desperately.
Market trader
Player Valuation: £1m
Moshiri has made mistakes but, in terms of the playing side, the biggest mistake, I think, was not to have someone on the board to advise on appointments to the coaching and recruitment staff. Instead of taking Koeman from Southampton he should have tried to get someone like Les Reed, for example. He oversees, as a member of the Southampton board, a structure which has had remarkable success in continuing to produce and buy good young footballers, and sign managers who do well with continually changing personnel. Did we try for him, or Monchi? Or Rangnick? And why was Joe Royle not considered? Whoever might have been appointed, he would have had to be at board level and not just as director of football.
If his comments were proven to be racist then its got nothing to with being unprofessional..it,s racist pure and simple. The fact that you cannot seem to acknowledge that and your insistence to deflect away from the salient point to my commitment to the club speaks volumes of you.
If I choose to step away from the club you,d be the last to know...
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