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Farhad Moshiri

7+ Years On... Your Verdict On Farhad Moshiri

  • Pleased

    Votes: 111 7.9%
  • Disappointed

    Votes: 1,295 92.1%

  • Total voters
    1,406
Hes invested more money into this club in 3 years than every single owner we have had in the last 130+ combined, yet its still not enough for some.
I don't think that's the problem though. The stadium issue really is the big problem we face at the moment. Fans were promised a new stadium for years under Kenwright and it never happened, Moshiri has come in and promised the same but so far it's all very slow for a lot of fans. Yes these things time (large scale building projects always do, something a number of people seem to fail to understand) but given Moshiri is an accountant and a billionaire, plus his conections to the likes of Usmanov, we can't even sort out funding at the moment for it. This is supposed to be his specialist area, it's understandable why some fans are annoyed.
 
I don't think that's the problem though. The stadium issue really is the big problem we face at the moment. Fans were promised a new stadium for years under Kenwright and it never happened, Moshiri has come in and promised the same but so far it's all very slow for a lot of fans. Yes these things time (large scale building projects always do, something a number of people seem to fail to understand) but given Moshiri is an accountant and a billionaire, plus his conections to the likes of Usmanov, we can't even sort out funding at the moment for it. This is supposed to be his specialist area, it's understandable why some fans are annoyed.

I get why people are annoyed and why they might question him, totally.

We have been promised many stadiums and they have all crashed and burnt, so I get it 100%.

Even then we have seen massive investment we have also not improved on the pitch at all, despite it all, so yeah I get why some might not be happy.
 

Are we really judging him based on what happens on the pitch?

The evidence is there for all to see that he has put money into the club, this is something that hasn't happened since the John Moores era

If the stadium happens, he'll also have delivered something huge

What that article is saying is that because we've stood still (at best) on the pitch, Moshiri should shoulder the blame - he probably takes the blame for some poor appointments, but certainly not for not backing them financially. The way I see it, the only real stick to beat Moshiri with is that he appointed Koeman and his team, Steve Walsh and Allardyce and his team. That's fair comment, but I'm not really seeing how he shoulders any responsibility for us not progressing on the pitch beyond that
 
Are we really judging him based on what happens on the pitch?

The evidence is there for all to see that he has put money into the club, this is something that hasn't happened since the John Moores era

If the stadium happens, he'll also have delivered something huge

What that article is saying is that because we've stood still (at best) on the pitch, Moshiri should shoulder the blame - he probably takes the blame for some poor appointments, but certainly not for not backing them financially. The way I see it, the only real stick to beat Moshiri with is that he appointed Koeman and his team, Steve Walsh and Allardyce and his team. That's fair comment, but I'm not really seeing how he shoulders any responsibility for us not progressing on the pitch beyond that
The fact he’s appointed Brands at the second attempt leads me to believe he knows this
 
Are we really judging him based on what happens on the pitch?

Yes.

As a fan I judge Moshiri by;

On the pitch performance or as Moshiri put it last week - competitiveness.

Off the pitch performance - new stadium.

he appointed Koeman and his team, Steve Walsh and Allardyce and his team. That's fair comment, but I'm not really seeing how he shoulders any responsibility for us not progressing on the pitch beyond that

Beyond that?

Beyond the entire management setup?
 

Yes.

As a fan I judge Moshiri by;

On the pitch performance or as Moshiri put it last week - competitiveness.

Off the pitch performance - new stadium.



Beyond that?

Beyond the entire management setup?

Off the pitch - this is his bag. If we don't end up playing at Bramley Moore, this will be a huge black mark against him. In complete agreement here. We can put a pin in this because neither you nor I nor most of the people on the forum have any experience nor any real understanding of the complexities involved in a project like this so commenting on how long it's taking is like the arlarse in the pub moaning about zonal marking.

On the pitch - his involvement stretches to two key areas.
  1. Appointing the people responsible for managing the team
  2. Providing the financial means to make the team competitive
I'm guessing that, Dave aside, we'd more or less all agree that Moshiri has provided financial backing which ticks off point number 2? Where he has failed is his choice of appointments for the management of the team. In fact, if you flip it around, you could look back to Kenwright and say that he couldn't deliver point number two, but his appointment and faith in David Moyes was a huge success (relatively speaking) and provided us a great level of stability during a period where finances where stretched wafer thin and, had the managerial appointment not been correct, who knows which way we could have ended up?

So yes, the one stick you can beat Moshiri with is his choice of personnel to manage the club. It's been really poor so far and you have to hope lessons have been learned. What he needed to do was appoint a "football man" to make a lot of these decisions, and you can only hope that Marcel Brands now ticks that box as you would assume he would be more qualified to judge who would and who wouldn't make a good manager for the club, rather than a billionaire investor. It's a difficult one though - are we saying that the Glazers are bad owners because Mourinho was appointed? Or however many more examples you want to list here.
 
I don't think that's the problem though. The stadium issue really is the big problem we face at the moment. Fans were promised a new stadium for years under Kenwright and it never happened, Moshiri has come in and promised the same but so far it's all very slow for a lot of fans. Yes these things time (large scale building projects always do, something a number of people seem to fail to understand) but given Moshiri is an accountant and a billionaire, plus his conections to the likes of Usmanov, we can't even sort out funding at the moment for it. This is supposed to be his specialist area, it's understandable why some fans are annoyed.


You do realise how long it takes to sort a stadium out right? It's taken spurs a decade to sort it out, it's taken Liverpool about the same to sort a stand out. Moshiri has been here for about 3 years and so far has bought the rent for the land for 200 years and is readying a bid for planning permission in the summer. What more do people want?

If you look at it from a actual perspective of how long it's taken other people we'removing at lighting pace.

Also where's this issue with the funding come from? We're actively knocking back offers for funding (the city council being the most public one) and using the naming rights to add towards that. Funding will not be a issue.
 
You do realise how long it takes to sort a stadium out right? It's taken spurs a decade to sort it out, it's taken Liverpool about the same to sort a stand out. Moshiri has been here for about 3 years and so far has bought the rent for the land for 200 years and is readying a bid for planning permission in the summer. What more do people want?

If you look at it from a actual perspective of how long it's taken other people we'removing at lighting pace.

Also where's this issue with the funding come from? We're actively knocking back offers for funding (the city council being the most public one) and using the naming rights to add towards that. Funding will not be a issue.
That's exactly what i said mate, i know these things take years to sort out, i have never expected it to be a quick thing.
 

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