Financial Fair Play investigation

[riddick]

So, I guess a devils advocate thing here, didn't 2 clubs sue West Ham over Tevez / Mascherano? Or did they sue the PL?

 

[st.domingo]

So, I guess a devils advocate thing here, didn't 2 clubs sue West Ham over Tevez / Mascherano? Or did they sue the PL?

Via FourFourTwo:

West Ham and Sheffield United eventually reached an out-of-court settlement to end their dispute in March 2009.

Interestingly:

Among the reasons for the decision not to deduct points was the club’s guilty plea and the fact that they had changed management and ownership.

Roll on the takeover then.

On This Day in 2007: West Ham accept fine over Tevez and Mascherano deal

West Ham confirmed they would not appeal against the record £5.5million fine imposed on them over the signings of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano on this day in 2007.

www.fourfourtwo.com

 

[detonator7]

I'm surprised that bell end Kieran Maguire hasn't been asked to throw his tuppenceworth in again.

Excuse my ignorance, whys he a bellend? I only know him though the price of football podcast where I find him quite informative and knowledgeable

 

[blueboy1664]

Sooner the better

Correctomundo.

But it’s happening don’t you worry about tha

 

[davek]

Excuse my ignorance, whys he a bellend? I only know him though the price of football podcast where I find him quite informative and knowledgeable

He just is. Take my word for it...or read through this thread from a few months back where it was established he is. .

 

[catcherintherye]

This!
Due process has to happen, it's why Ivan Toney has been allowed to play for nearly a year after he was charged with over 200 counts of breaching betting rules. Are Leeds and Forest going to sue Brentford because they fielded a player who scored against them when he should have been banned sooner?? Has anyone done the math and worked out if Brentford would be fighting for survival too without Toney's goal contributions? Of course not. Those clubs around us are fighting for their lives because like us, on the pitch where it matters they have been shocking this season - not because we wasted 500m several seasons ago.

Of course mate. And he has scored goals that have had all manner of effect. But punishments cant be backwards looking.

And lets be honest, betting on football is far more serious for a player, than what are essentially accounting errors.

 

[Brigadier2]

So, I guess a devils advocate thing here, didn't 2 clubs sue West Ham over Tevez / Mascherano? Or did they sue the PL?

Masherano was unsurprisingly left out because he played for guess who, sheff utd were payed out because of tevez.

 

[barneygumble]

Masherano was unsurprisingly left out because he played for guess who, sheff utd were payed out because of tevez.

Probably more to do with the fact they thought he was a no one because Alan Pardew was playing Hayden Mullins over him?

Good old Pardew

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Contemplated it but didn't. Either way a lawyer could put up a good defence.

They settled so the matter was never fully heard or determined. Derby being close to insolvency probably had something to do with it being settled- good defence yes but the matter never properly determined in front of a Panel also correct. Mel Morris came to a settlement with Gibson presumably for a few million and new owner settled with Wycombe on takeover.

The interesting or an interesting takeaway there was that the League considered ie the Football League such claims to be legitimate in so far as they couldn't just quash them but they had a right to be heard if not settled. It's not been fully tested though.

The Derby administrators sought to quash these through Insolvency law changes, known as a "Cross Class Cram down" however the Football League has other ideas and said that they could not be compromised and the club retain their membership of the League. Football League despite being under some pressure due to Derby being in administration and this risking their future basically would not seek to quash the right for said claims to be heard.

The only true precedent would have been had it been heard club v Club via the EFL Arbitration mechanism basically.

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Via FourFourTwo:

Interestingly:


Roll on the takeover then.

On This Day in 2007: West Ham accept fine over Tevez and Mascherano deal

West Ham confirmed they would not appeal against the record £5.5million fine imposed on them over the signings of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano on this day in 2007.

www.fourfourtwo.com

That seems odd because I know with certain issues the liability lies with the club and not the owner. I am not doubting your info but I recall that when Derby were going through their travails a change of ownership would not have stopped the FFP process. The League even after administration were still determined to enforce their rules in full.

Think they were indicating they would push for the maximum if Derby didn't settle on the 9 pts, 3 suspended despite being in administration.

 

[MIKE85]

Think he's referring to the formerly proposed Super League that almost, but didn't happen in 2021

Correctomundo.

But it’s happening don’t you worry about that

Thx. It's hard to keep up nowadays

 

[RomanReigns]

Forest have mysteriously withdrawn their complaint. No one knows why.

Leeds are writing a strongly worded letter to the FA as we speak

 

[BlueStevie35]

Forest have mysteriously withdrawn their complaint. No one knows why.

Leeds are writing a strongly worded letter to the FA as we speak

And they’ll get laughed at, again

 

[Joey66]

Forest have mysteriously withdrawn their complaint. No one knows why.

Leeds are writing a strongly worded letter to the FA as we speak

Sam's writing it too lol

 

[Kraken]

Sam's writing it too lol

The fa have already sent it back saying they couldn’t read it, due to the tear slobber and gravy stains. They are yet to open the thick brown envelope he also sent to them.