Financial Fair Play investigation

[kenada_blue]

Which would be better ... a 6 points deduction or a 2 window transfer ban

Just a January window ban and a fine.

In fact... wouldn't be surprised if that was the outcome.

 

[GoodisonRoadSupperBarWool]

Well what did the scabs all get fined for trying to leg the league ? It should be a fine and we move on. They can do one. We’ve literally worked with the league the last few windows. These type of cases are just going to make the premier league look more like the WWE along with thr farce that is Var.

What next ? Us and the rest of the teams who qualified for Europe on the mid 80s trying to put a claim in against Liverpool for lose or revenue ?

 

[PKwalnuts]

I don't think it will, but if anything happens to us on this, we should be completely petty and non compliant back.

Refuse interviews to media, make all associated with league and officials, separate queue to get in, leaving them little time and outside in the rain, give them obstructed views, even if its Gareth Southgate or other chairmen. Make opposing teams and ref get changed in the car park, no shaking hands or walking out with ref etc, Create a whole stink. Take the fines and just say we don't care anymore its corrupt.

Massive banners in the Gwladys that say "Sniff it" "Scab 6 are grasses"

Feel better now.

 

[Micky_T]

The point here is that based on rumours and even if it is on a leak it doesn’t say the source of that leak

The Telegraph have never said the information was leaked from the Premier league. The information could have come from anywhere. The journalists mates could have told him the Premier League are pushing for a 12 point deduction.

It's all meaningless though. The only thing that matters is what the independent committee say.

 

[Dymak]

The problem with accepting a 3 or 6 point penalty, would mean the outcome is that we are found guilty.

That in turn results in the scavengers attempting to sue us (Leeds, Burnley etc)

Do any of those teams really have recourse to sue, even if we are found guilty?

If a team breaking the rules gives ground for a lawsuit, then we’d end up with clubs being sued because one of their players made a hand ball.

Bournemouth were effectively relegated a few seasons ago because of a fault in goal line technology at Aston Villa. This would be a far more worthy lawsuit imo, and the media said Bournemouth ‘could sue’ but nothing happened.

Bournemouth could take legal action over Aston Villa goal-line incident

Cherries finished one point behind Villa, who drew with Sheffield United in first game of restart despite goalkeeper Orjan Nyland carrying the ball over the line

www.independent.co.uk

There will be no lawsuits imo, even if we were found guilty.

 

[WestStandLower]

The Telegraph have never said the information was leaked from the Premier league. The information could have come from anywhere. The journalists mates could have told him the Premier League are pushing for a 12 point deduction.

It's all meaningless though. The only thing that matters is what the independent committee say.

That I guess is my point.

Many have made an assumption that a PL leak has prejudiced matters when in reality that leak could have come from anywhere .

Expand the argument and some suggest that the fact ( if that’s actually what happened) that the PL have asked for such a points deduction again prejudiced matters and even if that’s the case without context we have absolutely no idea .

 

[NathDogg]

Still bored of this load of old nonsense.

 

[Yarrgh]

How about

"Everton worked with the PL and Accountants at the time, subsequently referred to independent review and the committee find that Everton while being guilty of nothing more than being a victim of a period of uncertainty exacerbated by a Worldwide pandemic and the economic difficulties faced by all, have effectively reined in their fiscal policy and allowed oversight from all concerned parties and as a result we see no benefit in pursuing any further course of action at this stage. This of course will be subject to review, should any further allegations ensue."


Close the chapter, Move on?

Sounds like the right result to me.

 

[kenada_blue]

Do any of those teams really have recourse to sue, even if we are found guilty?

If a team breaking the rules gives ground for a lawsuit, then we’d end up with clubs being sued because one of their players made a hand ball.

Bournemouth were effectively relegated a few seasons ago because of a fault in goal line technology at Aston Villa. This would be a far more worthy lawsuit imo, and the media said Bournemouth ‘could sue’ but nothing happened.

Bournemouth could take legal action over Aston Villa goal-line incident

Cherries finished one point behind Villa, who drew with Sheffield United in first game of restart despite goalkeeper Orjan Nyland carrying the ball over the line

www.independent.co.uk

There will be no lawsuits imo, even if we were found guilty.

They can't sue the club though. They could sue the league for allowing it to happen.

Put it this way, could Man City be sued for loss of earnings if they're found guilty? Winning the league and playing in the champions league at the expense of another side leaves that side out of pocket doesn't it?

 

[arch stanton]

At risk of repeating myself and so many others, points deduction for us for this, will have huge repercussions if they dont stay on the same pathway when dealing with City.

Personally, I just don't see a points deduction being dished out.

I may regret the vaults.

I agree with you but I don't think football officials do consistency

 

[WestStandLower]

I think you're spot on mate.

1 point taken off us would be cause for an appeal.

It;'s ludicrous that 6 clubs almost killed the PL and got a £3M fine each and we're being told we may get points deductions. It's pathetic and corrupt.

As I have stated on numerous occasions I don’t think UEFAs FFP or the PL version is appropriate or indeed fit for purpose but the rules in regulations are in place and maybe in PL terms Everton are the first to be judged by way of a commission they certainly won’t be the last.
The 6 clubs that signed up for the ESL didn’t break any PL rule. They have never been charged nor have they be fined.

Yes those 6 have been understandably be found guilty in the court of public opinion but to state they have been fined is just not fact so trying to draw comparisons with the current charge facing Everton is subjective to say the least

 

[stamullenblue]

The Telegraph have never said the information was leaked from the Premier league. The information could have come from anywhere. The journalists mates could have told him the Premier League are pushing for a 12 point deduction.

It's all meaningless though. The only thing that matters is what the independent committee say.

its nonsense. like saying you get life if guilty of murder … nothing is decided yet !

 

[davek]

As I have stated on numerous occasions I don’t think UEFAs FFP or the PL version is appropriate or indeed fit for purpose but the rules in regulations are in place and maybe in PL terms Everton are the first to be judged by way of a commission they certainly won’t be the last.
The 6 clubs that signed up for the ESL didn’t break any PL rule. They have never been charged nor have they be fined.

Yes those 6 have been understandably be found guilty in the court of public opinion but to state they have been fined is just not fact so trying to draw comparisons with the current charge facing Everton is subjective to say the least

Hold on, if they weren't guilty of PL laws then why are they fined, and why did they pay the fines?

The point is that the PL held them responsible for bringing the PL into disrepute and had any choice of punishment they wished to hand out. The CHOSE a small fine for each.

The fact that it wasn't about FFP is neither here nor there.

 

[WestStandLower]

They can't sue the club though. They could sue the league for allowing it to happen.

Put it this way, could Man City be sued for loss of earnings if they're found guilty? Winning the league and playing in the champions league at the expense of another side leaves that side out of pocket doesn't it?

There is clear guidance and a process for clubs to follow and it certainly wouldn’t be the league that would be sued.

OK it might not entail club a )suing club b) but if ( and I think it’s important that we use that word ) the commission do rule against Everton and if it comes with a point’s deduction then it’s possible a claim to compensation could be made via the leagues arbitration process. A process all clubs have agreed to adhere to and a process that extends to ex PL members

In theory any arbitration panel ruling should be the end of the matter but the process could potentially go to FIFA under their Inter Club dispute process and unlike most PL v Club matters it’s conceivable that CAS would have jurisdiction but also the PL Arbitration process doesn’t totally exclude referring ( as City did ) the matter to the High Court

 

[davek]

The Telegraph have never said the information was leaked from the Premier league. The information could have come from anywhere. The journalists mates could have told him the Premier League are pushing for a 12 point deduction.

It's all meaningless though. The only thing that matters is what the independent committee say.

Its not meaningless. As we can all see that report set the tone for all subsequent debate and had Everton marked down pre-juducially as guilty.

It most definitely was NOT meaningless.