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HalfTimeSayers
Player Valuation: £30m
The story of us being relegated is huge, for about 10 minutes. People are making many multiples more cash out of Wrexham than Everton.
The story of us being relegated and City/Chelsea etc receiving similar penalties for infinitely worse infractions would be the biggest and clearest evidence of mass corruption in English football at the highest level. A much much bigger story, and one the PL and Sky etc surely can’t stomach. Even media voices that hate us would pound that point home, especially the kopite and United leaning ones (I.e. all of them)
Their unwillingness to obliterate the best team in the world, their star attraction, might be what saves us from a truly painful punishment.
The PL doesn’t want stories, it wants money.
How does the story of us getting relegated benefit them more than the continued participation of a founder member and ever present of the league, drawing in more viewers (money) than any alternative replacement team coming up from the Champo?
ValBlue
Player Valuation: £20m
Luton are most likely going down, though honestly it doesn’t matter who the other 2 teams are.
Any club who is not a media darling is only worth the size of the storyline they create. Nobody cares any team in between the European slots and the relegation zone. The only reason they do care is if something monumental happens. Who cares what the team in 13th or 15th is up to? What story is that making? What global fan (customer) cares what the middle clubs are doing?
You’re acting like the league gives us all the time and focus normally, news flash - they don’t. We’re interesting to them and their global audience purely because of the size of our potential relegation. Nobody cares about the clubs outside the glory ones, you’re deluding yourself if you think anyone in the media gives a rats arse if we’re down. They’ll milk the story for everything it’s worth whilst simultaneously simping over what Rashford ate for breakfast that morning.
….I don’t think that’s the issue. It’s whether the level of punishments is even handed.
So where was this shady action in the 2000s when we WERE actively threatening Liverpool’s position in the city?
I’d argue that a money-spinning local derby at least twice a season benefits the PL more than relegating us would.
Time will tell on that score.
If I were a gambling man I’d say City will get off lightly in general, and in comparison to us, but that will say more about the PL not wanting the headache of asterisk titles for the last 5 years, and not wanting to deal damage to their most rapidly growing brand, than about any insidious plot against the most non-threatening, perpetually vanilla no-marks of the league who nevertheless continue to make them a prettier penny than any Championship replacement would.
….which means there is an agenda.
So the media doesn’t give a rat’s arse if we’re down, but the PL wants us down because it’ll make them a load of money via the associated stories in the *drum roll* MEDIA???
Your argument is incoherent and conspiratorial nonsense.
Newcastle, Villa, Leeds and West Ham have all been relegated in the past and it was news for 5 minutes.
Middlesbrough were relegated as a direct result of a points deduction and there was barely a sniff.
Everton’s continued participation in the league and the revenue it brings - pretty sure the Merseyside derby has the highest recorded viewership for a PL game on Sky - is worth FAR more to the PL than our relegation and any associated stories.
……………………. But not an anti-Everton one.
…an agenda that favours a certain few clubs means there’s an ‘anti-agenda’ against the others.
Tony’s Carp
Player Valuation: £50m
The PL might see going down the points deduction route as politically necessary but the reason they have been so reluctant in the past is it isn’t good for “the product”.
Some fans might take a bit of delight in our punishment but bigger picture I think fans in general want things decided on the pitch not tribunals and courtrooms. I don’t think the PL will see it as good for the product if, once the precedent is set for points deductions, you see clubs bouncing around the table based on disciplinary proceedings, appeals etc.
People want certainty and to believe what they are seeing and I think most want a football league decided by football.
Some fans might take a bit of delight in our punishment but bigger picture I think fans in general want things decided on the pitch not tribunals and courtrooms. I don’t think the PL will see it as good for the product if, once the precedent is set for points deductions, you see clubs bouncing around the table based on disciplinary proceedings, appeals etc.
People want certainty and to believe what they are seeing and I think most want a football league decided by football.
ValBlue
Player Valuation: £20m
In the context of the bigger clubs, we’re nobodies. In the context of a story, it’s massive.
I’m pretty sure the derby had high viewership because it was the Liverpool derby, not because Everton were in it. Ask any casual who Liverpool’s rival is and they’ll say United.
It’s not conspiracy, the premier league could care less about if Everton is in the league so long as Arsenal, Liverpool, city, United, spurs and Chelsea are all in it. We make up the numbers along with everyone else. Why are we trying to convince ourselves like we’re some incredible asset? We’re nothing to them. They’ll be thrilled to make an example of us whilst doing nothing at all over city or Chelsea.
Blue Willy
Player Valuation: £8m
Ah well only a few days, weeks or months to wait…
The timing of this makes me nervous. The Premier League desperate to show they can be trusted to regulate.
If I understand correctly, come Man City/Chelsea, it'll be a different government backed regulator who will likely take a 'don't punish the fans' approach - massive fines then, back into grassroots.
I'm sure some will come along and look to correct me, but it feels very Oumar Niasse "successful deception of a match official" to me.
It would be typical for nice guys/whipping boys Everton to be the first mugs to be made an example of to take the punishment, before the punishment framework/regulator changes.
If there's a point deduction, the club should take it screaming and shouting and drag the Premier League through the mud as much as possible with finger pointing and whataboutery.
If I understand correctly, come Man City/Chelsea, it'll be a different government backed regulator who will likely take a 'don't punish the fans' approach - massive fines then, back into grassroots.
I'm sure some will come along and look to correct me, but it feels very Oumar Niasse "successful deception of a match official" to me.
It would be typical for nice guys/whipping boys Everton to be the first mugs to be made an example of to take the punishment, before the punishment framework/regulator changes.
If there's a point deduction, the club should take it screaming and shouting and drag the Premier League through the mud as much as possible with finger pointing and whataboutery.
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