2021/22 Frank Lampard

[NathDogg]

Moyes lovers haha your talking about real Evertonians who actually want us to win

Here's the I'm a bigger superrrr bloooo than yooooooo Shout!

I'm desperate for Everton to start winning and stay up, there's nothing I want more, but I wont go in on the new manager after 8 games, when he's trying to sort it out the right way, and trying to unravel the mess. He needs to be more ruthless with some of the senior pros and bomb them, imo, that's the only real criticism I can throw at him, and even then he is probably thinking I can't play the kids due to the situation we are in.

The previous manager was just doing things for the hell of it as far as I could tell, tactically and from a personal perspective - there was no long term vision, except to destroy the club, and he may have succeeded.

By saying you were vindicated over Benitez means I cannot take your input seriously. Go follow the dour ginger jock and wham - be free.

 

[4737carlin]

No matey, I'm more interested in your vindicated bit. What was the original position? What did you think would happen? Etc.

Poorly articulated points make it hard to take one seriously old boy.

Yeah vindiacted, Rafael was never the problem and the fact we havent turned it around around shows this, its on the players

 

[Swagger]

Reminds me a bit of Marko Silva who was also hit with a ridiculous amount of injuries and a load of misfortune. The non use of VAR in the Millwall cup game still winds me up and seeing the general state of Neil Harris. Silva is now lighting it up with Fulham playing some great football in the Championship.

Arsenal were horrific away to Palace having put together a strong of impressive results having the luxury of a largely unchanged side. What happened vs Palace...Tierney was injured and the backup left back had a shocker...where have I seen that movie before.

Hopefully we can somehow secure a win tonight and bring some much needed positive energy.

 

[lancs blue]

Sorry mate, but it`s hard to take anyone, who`s still pining for Allardyce seriously.

Hes taking calls from Billy whizz and moshers as we speak.....

 

[4737carlin]

I'm desperate for Everton to start winning and stay up, there's nothing I want more, but I wont go in on the new manager after 8 games, when he's trying to sort it out the right way, and trying to unravel the mess. He needs to be more ruthless with some of the senior pros and bomb them, imo, that's the only real criticism I can throw at him, and even then he is probably thinking I can't play the kids due to the situation we are in.

The previous manager was just doing things for the hell of it as far as I could tell, tactically and from a personal perspective - there was no long term vision, except to destroy the club, and he may have succeeded.

By saying you were vindicated over Benitez means I cannot take your input seriously. Go follow the dour ginger jock and wham - be free.

No you made a fool of yourself saying "frauds biggest cheerleaders" were on Franks back which isnt true, the Evertonians backed Rafael and are backing Frank now, the knobs on Franks case are the same people who turned on Rafael, all they do us moan, the lack of support the team has had this season is one of the reasons we are in this mess

 

[4737carlin]

COME ON FRANK!!

Today isnt the day for fans dragging up past times for the sake of creating bad feeling towards the blues, we have to be positive, we have to believe we can do this

 

[Earwigjoe]

Yeah vindiacted, Rafael was never the problem and the fact we havent turned it around around shows this, its on the players

 

[COYBL25]

But the sacking of Sam was the start of this mess, impossible to say otherwise, managerial turn over got out of hand, sacking a manger who did a deent job by our standards was madness.
I presume you want Frank out? since he isnt doing as well?

I am 100% behind Frank mate, even if we go down.

Bentiez, was just the catalyst, for what has been a txt book example of how not to run a football club, ever since Moshiri took over.

Ultimately, Kenwright and Moshiri are the ones culpable, the likes of Benitez just put the tin hat on things.

The Good Ship Everton was already sinking when Frank took over.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

I’m all for this total reset if we were to go down, however the people in charge don’t have the vision to implement it.

Well hopefully they won’t be in charge of the worst happened

 

[Nymzee]

Still a cult of horse gobblers in here I see.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Yeah vindiacted, Rafael was never the problem and the fact we havent turned it around around shows this, its on the players

There's merit in that, but there's also scope to acknowledge Benitez was plop and that Frank may be out of his depth / making poor choices too.

It ain't monocausal, thats for sure.

 

[4737carlin]

I am 100% behind Frank mate, even if we go down.

Bentiez, was just the catalyst, for what has been a txt book example of how not to run a football club since Moshiri took over.

Dont get me wrong i can see bringing in Rafael was madness because of the controversy it was going to bring, but it was standard Moshiri behavior, a total idiot.

That aside yeah we need to stick with Frank, next season if we stay up from the off we are odds on to go down again, either way no point changing again and nobody of note is going to want the job, this now is us for the foreseable future

 

[NathDogg]

No you made a fool of yourself saying "frauds biggest cheerleaders" were on Franks back which isnt true, the Evertonians backed Rafael and are backing Frank now, the knobs on Franks case are the same people who turned on Rafael, all they do us moan, the lack of support the team has had this season is one of the reasons we are in this mess

You reaching there mate, and now you're blaming the fans for our position and issues? Nice one.

I backed Benitez, against my better judgement, as did the vast majority of Evertonians, but we saw the mess he was making and the writing was on the wall fairly quickly.

There was no agenda to get him out, aside from a few dopes with bedsheets.
It could be argued we probably should have protested louder and longer before he was appointed, but the toll of Kenwright "good times" and the likes of Moyes always talking Everton down has browbeat the fans and we don't have the fight we used to.

The sad thing is, many on here continued to cheerlead and blindly support the kopite slug, and continued to back themselves into corners by following him, which is exactly what you have done here, and now they are going after lampard in some weird way to justify their Benitez fetish/love - very strange.

We need to rally behind Frank and support him, not look for cheap point scoring.

 

[4737carlin]

There's merit in that, but there's also scope to acknowledge Benitez was plop and that Frank may be out of his depth / making poor choices too.

It ain't monocausal, thats for sure.

Agree on that mate, yeah Benitez was plop but with this squad and budget we couldnt expect anymore, same now, and next season will be no different

 

[DL100]

Who is blaming Lampard for red cards?

I actually think Allan should have been sent off by the letter of the law of the game. Both feet off the ground = reckless and out of control.

He shouldn't have been sent off after a VAR review because it wasn't clear and obvious, and we see the same tackles all the time that aren't red cards (Shelvey on Gordon in the Newcastle game a few weeks before, McTominay the other night) but I knew it wouldn't be overturned because both feet off the ground, none of the ball, from behind/side they class as reckless and out of control.

Not blaming but questioning his discipline comment I think he was talking about the game rather that the cards