2022/23 Frank Lampard

[Egil Olsen]

I don’t disagree with a lot, most, of what you’ve written. The only thing is, most of it isn’t anything to do with Lampard. There’s a huge amount of blame and culpability for our situation, the board, directors of football - I just find it he’d to lay that blame for our downward trajectory at Lampard’s door.

Good managers can improve teams but as Ancelotti said when he went back to Madrid, it’s a lot easier to manage a Ferrari than a Fiat Punto or words to that effect. This side struggled to score/create goals under one of the most successful managers of all time and he had Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Richie, James, Digne and Siggi. They had flaws but we’ve unarguably downgraded on them.

Yes, we’re massively underperforming compared to money spent, that’s meaningless if the money spent has been pissed up the wall like a drunk in the casino at 4am in the morning after an all day bender.

You could make the same argument for QPR under Flávio Briatore and then Tony Fernandes - they massively underperformed relative to money spent, still went down.

Of course, Lampard is not entirely to blame, but he is part of the problem. He does not yet have enough competence or experience to lead a club like Everton. As I said, a very good manager usually performs above what is expected, and at the very least manages to instill a style of play after a certain time. As a rule, it reflects the pedagogy that takes place in the training field.

It is his responsibility, and no one else's! His responsibility is to get the team to win football games, at least the games that are expected, so that we end up roughly where we are expected to end up. For me, it is that we should not be involved in any relegation battle, and preferably end up around 12-13-14 position. So I don't expect us to set the world on fire. I also expect that we have a fairly clear playing style, and that we are a team that shows high morale. He has achieved none of this.

 

[Tony101]

I like Frank I wanted him to do well. Sick of all this hiring and firing managers. His time is up. Same as it was for Benitez you can’t defend the facts. The results haven’t been good enough. He has been let down by the bored but he has made his own mistakes too. I am sick of Everton.

 

[Lanolin]

Sincerely - do we know at all how he'd want the team to play?
I get the whole "when in a relegation fight you have to be pragmatic" thing, but it's been a year and I genuinely have no idea what his ideal style might be that we're now sacrificing.

He reminds me a bit of Martinez style wise. It's like he wants to play nice attractive football, patiently knocking the ball around and opening teams up, but he's not actually sure how to implement it and get the players doing it. He wants it to happen just through sheer force of will rather than by coming up with tactical plans and repetitive coaching to ensure the players are comfortable with what they need to do. Because of that the plan ends up being to knock it round for a bit before either someone panics and hoofs it, or we get it to one of the attacking players and ask them to produce something individually brilliant.

 

[TheBlueGibbon]

He reminds me a bit of Martinez style wise. It's like he wants to play nice attractive football, patiently knocking the ball around and opening teams up, but he's not actually sure how to implement it and get the players doing it. He wants it to happen just through sheer force of will rather than by coming up with tactical plans and repetitive coaching to ensure the players are comfortable with what they need to do. Because of that the plan ends up being to knock it round for a bit before either someone panics and hoofs it, or we get it to one of the attacking players and ask them to produce something individually brilliant.

Yeah, Watford's winner was a great example of this.

 

[Jokerdan]

We can’t win FA at the moment.

I know but I'm just trying to salvage summat from this wreck of a football club

 

[terryefc]

Yesterday will go down as one of the 10 worst beatings we've taken at Goodison in our entire history.
I like Frank as a person but he's out of his depth.
The training drills seems formulaic with triangular passing and shooting practise.
None of this really makes them match fit. They all look lethargic and most are frankly not good enough even at peak fitness.
Our full backs were absolute tosh yesterday. I have hopes for Patts - but yesterday he was awful. Tarks and Coady were terrified. Like rabbits in the headlights. Gana had an absolute nightmare and cost us at least 2 goals. Davies is not and never will be good enough. McNeil is a luxury player - one we cannot afford in our position. DCL had 2 touches - shameful really. Gray tries to do it all himself - and Iwobi ran around a bit. A truly abysmal performance against an average team.
We are staring down the barrel now. We need 4 or 5 players who will visibly improve us - and gawd knows where they are or if we can afford them. I think we may be committed to hearing Frank's plans - but if he can't stop us letting 4 in at home then he has no business staying on. What a shambles. Sack him and his team and we really are taking a huge gamble. It is one that I fear we have to take.

 

[skumar55]

Spurs sacked Nuno straight away after bad run of results, villa sacked gerrard on the coach back home, where as Everton are still talking and waiting …..

 

[Timhowardsswearbox]

Spurs sacked Nuno straight away after bad run of results, villa sacked gerrard on the coach back home, where as Everton are still talking and waiting …..

I'm sure they are just finalising everything with Poch before issuing the press release...

 

[jazzy]

I'm sure they are just finalising everything with Poch before issuing the press release...

If only

 

[Bebeto]

Bet you that he will come back to the 5 at the back against Southampton and fighting for a point. He has no idea about tactics ans keep making mistakes...why not going with the same tactics against Brighton with 5 at the back that worked against city. He is making the wrong calls and for that alone should be sacked.

 

[Fatality]

BFS has the last laugh and he is correct.

Doing him dirty cursed us. We are very superficial reacting to charm and good looks. Yeah the style wasn't great but it was necessary. Because he seen us for what we are. A bunch of overpaid crap players and its been that way for a decade almost.

 

[efcfanwirral]

Doing him dirty cursed us. We are very superficial reacting to charm and good looks. Yeah the style wasn't great but it was necessary. Because he seen us for what we are. A bunch of overpaid crap players and its been that way for a decade almost.

The reaction we had to Allardyce might put them off getting someone in to do what's needed now. We need someone like him now, we didn't as much in 2017

 

[skumar55]

I'm sure they are just finalising everything with Poch before issuing the press release...

We can dream

 

[ToffeeTim]

 

[GrandOldSte117]

Ffs if they don't sack him now because of all of this media backlash against the board then we are in big trouble