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2022/23 Frank Lampard

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Lobster Johnson said:
There's all those stories about him at Wolves with signs everywhere that say "Nuno's way, not your way!"
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Will have to take down Franks fine sheets first, which he conveniently ignores when he’s 6 minutes late for every press conference.

He didn’t have those in place last year as thought punishing a squad under pressure was counter productive, but was planning to implement them in summer. Has really worked a treat.
 
barneygumble said:
It sadly needs ripping down and starting again with a manager with a vision, but it needs time, and stability, sadly neither of the two we have.

But do I trust the board to appoint the right man? Absolutely not. Outside of Ancelotti and Silva every appointment since has been rancid, even Silva went bad, but was the right idea.

The board got us here with rash appointments, sackings and investments. We’re going to get worse before it gets better sadly!
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Unfortunately we are in that death spiral;
- the players aren’t good enough so the managers takes the fall.
- The next manager comes in, maybe get a bounce and maybe survive.
- He needs to sell the high earners to buy
- the quality of the squad reduces further
- he then starts to struggle and is dismissed
- rinse and repeat until relegation

The club, as horrible as it seems, should be planning for the championship. So no short term candidates who get binned if we go down. Over the course of next 2 years the entire philosophy of this club needs to change; from transfers to managers to youth development. Hopefully this is done in the Premier League

A set way of playing, a set type of player and a clear progression for youngsters. If they don’t make it, sell them. None of this we’re a lovely club nonsense. The manager gets binned for a head coach
 
barneygumble said:
Can’t disagree mate. We’re totally screwed now.

I’m just trying to cling to any crumb of hope, which as it stands is decreasing every day.

My worry now is, can we get straight back promoted? How we’ve fallen.
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The Championship is the hardest league to get out of. Its one of the most competitive leagues and is always exciting for a neutral. Everton going down will encourage teams to raise their game against us, they'd love to get one over on us, being the biggest team to be relegated in modern football. It will never be straightforward as bouncing straight back up.
 
Would it be entirely outside the realms of possibility to get a young guy from the Championship or Europe who's doing bits on a shoestring?

Or get Arrigo Sacchi in. Either way.
 

Looks like he’s gone then. Pulling out of the second transfer to save the money to pay him off with? Possibly.
I‘m not looking forward to the inevitable links to Ferguson, Rooney, Moyes, Dyche and any other braindead, lazy, outdated appointment that this board will no doubt contemplate.

The very least I would want to know from this debacle is if Thelwell can go left field and break the stink of “premier league experience“? which has been a noose around the club‘s neck with previous and current playing staff and managers. Can this man step up and choose an up and coming manager BEFORE they are hoovered up by more forward thinking clubs?
The board are not good enough
The owner is not good enough
Frank Lampard was not good enough
Just Kevin Thelwell left for judgement…..
 

The Penalty Box Dancer said:
The Championship is the hardest league to get out of. Its one of the most competitive leagues and is always exciting for a neutral. Everton going down will encourage teams to raise their game against us, they'd love to get one over on us, being the biggest team to be relegated in modern football. It will never be straightforward as bouncing straight back up.
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It's all about getting your approach right really. For all the fear and horror stories of 'doing a Leeds', probably about 50% of teams who go down come straight back up. Burnley are practically back up already, and the other 2 from last year are in the top 5. It doesn't have to be an impossible situation, but no doubt if anyone could make it one, it would be us.
 
nsno-chris said:
Unfortunately we are in that death spiral;
- the players aren’t good enough so the managers takes the fall.
- The next manager comes in, maybe get a bounce and maybe survive.
- He needs to sell the high earners to buy
- the quality of the squad reduces further
- he then starts to struggle and is dismissed
- rinse and repeat until relegation

The club, as horrible as it seems, should be planning for the championship. So no short term candidates who get binned if we go down. Over the course of next 2 years the entire philosophy of this club needs to change; from transfers to managers to youth development. Hopefully this is done in the Premier League

A set way of playing, a set type of player and a clear progression for youngsters. If they don’t make it, sell them. None of this we’re a lovely club nonsense. The manager gets binned for a head coach
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Regardless of what league we’re in, we need to be planning for the future for me.

Next year, we’ll have a fair chunk off the wage bill. Ideall we’ll have some money to rebuild and just get players the fans can be proud of.

With all due respect, seeing the lack of intensity or effort every week has destroyed the fans just as much as the board ineptitude.

So I completely agree mate. Change the philosophy, and try to regain some kind of pride. We’re a mess.
 
Lanolin said:
It's all about getting your approach right really. For all the fear and horror stories of 'doing a Leeds', probably about 50% of teams who go down come straight back up. Burnley are practically back up already, and the other 2 from last year are in the top 5. It doesn't have to be an impossible situation, but no doubt if anyone could make it one, it would be us.
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That’s because they’re usually yo-yo teams like Norwich and West Brom, that are set up and ran with relegation being pretty much part of the plan. We will be carrying multiple players on £100k a week that will be impossible to shift, that also can’t contribute because they are crap, that’s why there’s talk of us doing a Leeds.
 

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