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God save the Queen...............should it still be our national anthem

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And did those feet in ancient time,
Walk upon Englands mountains green:
And was the holy Lamb of God,
On Englands pleasant pastures seen!

And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here,
Among these dark Satanic Mills?

Holy Lamb of God, divine countenance and Satan. Sounds pretty Christian to me.


Yes, it could be interpreted that way and indeed it has been adopted as a hymn by the Christians.

But there always been a strong belief that Blake was being satirical....pointing out the harsh realities people lived under whilst the gentry worshipped God in cloistered elegance.

Blake was not a practicing member of any religious denomination though most biographers opine that he did believe in God.

And the song certainly wasn't written as a hymn.....it was a poem which was used as a preface to a book Blake wrote about his great inspiration, the Civil War era poet, John Milton. It was set to music a century later by Hubert Parry and Elgar's arrangement became the classic version we are familiar with today.

Milton himself was a man whose major work was about the very darkest side of Christian beliefs.....the Fall of Lucifer the Archangel and the story of Eve and the Forbidden Fruit which saw her and Adam run out of Eden :blush:

Blake's politics were a version of Georgian/Regency socialism and even high ranking COE prelates have often queried its bona fides as a Hymn.

That said, irrespective of what Blake meant it to be, I find it a great song and always belt it out when played if I am in church :)

And IMO would make a great anthem for English sporting teams.
 
Yes, it could be interpreted that way and indeed it has been adopted as a hymn by the Christians.

But there always been a strong belief that Blake was being satirical....pointing out the harsh realities people lived under whilst the gentry worshipped God in cloistered elegance.

Blake was not a practicing member of any religious denomination though most biographers opine that he did believe in God.

And the song certainly wasn't written as a hymn.....it was a poem which was used as a preface to a book Blake wrote about his great inspiration, the Civil War era poet, John Milton. It was set to music a century later by Hubert Parry and Elgar's arrangement became the classic version we are familiar with today.

Milton himself was a man whose major work was about the very darkest side of Christian beliefs.....the Fall of Lucifer the Archangel and the story of Eve and the Forbidden Fruit which saw her and Adam run out of Eden :blush:

Blake's politics were a version of Georgian/Regency socialism and even high ranking COE prelates have often queried its bona fides as a Hymn.

That said, irrespective of what Blake meant it to be, I find it a great song and always belt it out when played if I am in church :)

And IMO would make a great anthem for English sporting teams.

I agree that it is a great song but I would think that the wording could be changed to enable the common jack to actually understand it. Land of hope and glory is the anthem used at the Proms and again its a rousing number. I just wondered what words could be applied to Bohemian Rhapsody in order to make it a national anthem, couldn't really have 'mama I killed a man', 'mama mia' being Italian or Bismillah which is Arabic for 'in the name of God' I think.

Come on you creatives lets have words for your songs
 


This is not a thread for pro and anti royalists more a debate about the musical merits of the national anthem of this disunited Kingdom.

So often anthems stir emotions, words that represent the land of origin bringing pride and passion to its citizens, sadly in my view GSTQ just doesn't do it. This dirge blandly praises one individual, does nothing to represent the country itself and fails to represent its people in any way. The Scots have adopted 'Flower of Scotland' the Welsh 'Bread of heaven' only England and N Ireland really keep GSTQ but why, 90% don't even know the words or that there is more than one verse let alone what those words mean.

I think its about time it was replaced 'Jerusalem' is more passionate piece though now outmoded...........can you suggest a replacement and who should compose it..........
The National Anthem is boring.

I usually would suggest land of hope and glory, but a quick glance at the news makes a mockery of that.
 
You might be right there, my friend. Just look at the lyrics, they're everything an anthem should be:

Don't stop, never give up
Hold your head high and reach the top
Let the world see what you have got
Bring it all back to you
Hold on to what you try to be
Your individuality
When the world is on your shoulders
Just smile and let it go
If people try to put you down
Just walk on by don't turn around
You only have to answer to yourself

They could modify the chorus to 'bring it all back to UK'.

Like being back in Big banana disco in Magaluf with sweaty birds and my best mates.
 

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