Thanks mate.
When you say you use the world now, is that individual virtual courses, as opposed to racing others ?
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Thanks mate.
When you say you use the world now, is that individual virtual courses, as opposed to racing others ?
Zwift is for people who want to do proper training indoors when the weather isn't great. Peleton is for meffs who think you should be trying to do press ups as you cycle or grind a really low cadence. Oh, and on Zwift, once you're done, you can unplug your bike and actually ride it outside. On Peleton, you can just ponder why you've spent a few grand on a clothes horse.
That explains, why all the serious riders and triathletes I know use Zwift.
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Black Belt Jones
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Yes it's a diverting thing to look at during intervals. There's also stuff like group rides and robot paced rides if you just want to get on for an hour at a certain effort level.
The racing is great but it's hardcore - you'll do more Watts than racing outside. It doesn't fit in so well with a steady training structure for me.
I'd veer towards "any exercise is okay" if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of what spin instructors seem to promote is really bad for you. Throw in that the thing is "hugely" expensive. I mean £1,300 for an exercise bike plus whatever you pay for classes is utterly insane. I dare say you could get a cheap indoor trainer and a bike to use on it that you can actually ride outdoors for half that. It feels like a classic example of marketing-driven consumerism.
The lockdowns seemed to have made it popular.
When all the serious riders I knew, where doing road massive mileage, due to the fact there was no traffic !
My wife and I can both do Peloton on one machine and I don't need to buy a trainer and disassemble my bike (because I don't yet have a beater) and set up my laptop and load zwift to do a training ride. I can adjust the bike and jump on the peloton and do a good 45 minute ride. It's absolutely not the same and many of the classes are spin oriented but there is a section of rides that are much more "normal."
As someone new to the bike, I've found that some of the peloton rides help get me out of my comfort zone and help me "push bigger gears" when I would naturally pick a smaller gear and ride a higher tempo. Obviously you can do similar things on a trainer, but it's been helpful for me.
So depending on what you aim to achieve they can get the same benefit or do entirely different things with the two setups. But back to your question, roadies are elitist and triathletes are control freaks, so both have a natural aversion to something like peloton.
Well, it's easy to use in general. It's easy for new riders to use. It has plans already set (although not all of them are great), which helps new riders. It's convertible, so people of different sizes can ride the same machine (although it has a fixed middle geometry so not everyone fits as well). And all things considered it's not terribly expensive. A new trainer ($500) and a used bike ($1000) can easily cost the same or more as a new peloton. If I had my druthers I'd ride every day (but I have to work) or use a Wahoo KICKR (but it costs $3500) but I have been happy with the peloton so far and it may be an entry way for my wife to get a road bike as well.
As you mentioned in the post before this though, the instructors seem to regularly encourage people to "push a bigger gear" as though that's in any way a good thing. You won't really get fitter grinding a gear at 50rpm but you will knacker your knees in. There's a reason why Zwift defaults to ERG mode when you're doing a workout, because your cadence should stay largely the same.
Re the cost, it depends really. I've been using a Giant SCR 1.5 on the turbo (and commuting/touring) for over a decade now and it works a charm. Cost me about £400 brand new so I'm sure you could get one cheaper second hand. Similarly, you can get turbos really cheap as so many people bought one and not used it. This Vortex is like £40, for instance - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144950125276. Get those and you'd be up and running for less than £500 with a decent bike you could ride outside (mine even did a few sportives back in the day).
No disagreement with you on the training, at best Peloton is a training aid. Or if all you want to do is a 30 minute spin class every day it's great for that. But if you know what you want, you can find other training on it as well easily enough. It's not a straightjacket, and people who lack imagination lack imagination outdoors on a road bike as well (although being outdoors often inspires on its own, but that's a different conversation.)
On the price--I think you're probably just a bit out of touch. In the US, at least, used bike prices are running more or less equal to original sale price since early 2020. What with the worldwide bicycle shortage and all. I think that's finally coming down, however, now that new bike inventory is returning to retail and you don't have to wait 6-12 months for a bike (depending on what sort of bike you're looking for). In a best case scenario we soon have a bicycle glut and all bikes are much cheaper, but even if that's in our future, it's not the present yet.
*edit to add, here's a 7 year old Giant TCR on a resale site (not your best price, but a good barometer) for $2300 USD. Looking on facebook I can find a 2006 Giant TCR for $600, but then I have to travel/ship.
Have you had a rest stop yet ?
canuckblue
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On yer bike, lads.
He`s got Speedo Mick on the back, giving him a takey.
This is the exact bike I have. I reckon you could probably find it cheaper if you looked around. For sitting on the trainer/commuting/touring it's worked a charm.
Giant SCR 1.5 Small Road Bike, Shimano 105 R7000 11 Speed, ITM Thompson FSA | eBay
Giant SCR 1.5 Size Small. Headset =Less than 1 year old FSA. Bottom bracket =Less than 1 year old Shimano 105. Stem = ITM Alutech 90mm length, black, 31.8mm bar clamp. Brakes = Shimano R451 Black, 57mm 'deep drop'.
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The binman chronicles
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When I saw the thread I'm not going to lie I thought it was getting ready for when we get beat by Macclesfield at the new stadium, we'd all leave on 80 mins pick up our bikes outside (making use of the 10000 cycle parking facilities). Not before warming up our lungs with a good long BOOOOO of course.
@Bruce Wayne can whip us into shape to learn the team sprint so we are all organised taking turns up front as we fly down Regent Road head down in aerodynamic helmets trying to get as far away as possible in the shortest amount of time.
@Bruce Wayne can whip us into shape to learn the team sprint so we are all organised taking turns up front as we fly down Regent Road head down in aerodynamic helmets trying to get as far away as possible in the shortest amount of time.
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