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Groucho's Fact Hunt

8th Oct 1829 George Stephenson did his party piece in the week long Rainhill trails
9.10am, 11th August 1968 a Brittania Class locomotive 70013 Oliver Cromwell left Lime St for Carlisle and returned via Manchester travelling along those same tracks to arrive in Lime Street at 7.00pm
This was the last official British Railways steam journey.
The Age of Steam was over.
I remember being lifted up to see a steam train going under the bridge at Spofforth rd/ Picton rd junction, may have been that.
 
I remember being lifted up to see a steam train going under the bridge at Spofforth rd/ Picton rd junction, may have been that.
In 1979 there was a 150th year celebration and the ran every old steam train they could getup and down that section of Rainhill track.
I took pictures from the school field at the back of Whiston Hospital, with a shight camera, of as many as I could, I'll try and dig them out, I doubt they're all there though as Mrs degsy had a sort out ages ago and I think she biffed out all the ones that didn't have the kids in them - women.
 
In 1979 there was a 150th year celebration and the ran every old steam train they could getup and down that section of Rainhill track.
I took pictures from the school field at the back of Whiston Hospital, with a shight camera, of as many as I could, I'll try and dig them out, I doubt they're all there though as Mrs degsy had a sort out ages ago and I think she biffed out all the ones that didn't have the kids in them - women.
I remember that, quite a big build up to it locally. I went along with my Grandad (he lived in Prescot at the time) but don't have too many clear memories of the day.
 
The discovery of petroleum in the US threatened the livelihood of sperm whale oil chemist Robert Chesebrough.

But curious for opportunity, he travelled to the oilfields of Pennsylvania to discover workers had been soothing their cuts and burns with a residue left on the oil pumps.

Cheseborough would later extract a jelly from the residue, and patented it on May 14, 1878.

He named the product Vaseline, and was such an advocate that he would eat a spoonful of it every day.

Queen Victoria was so taken with Vaseline that she granted Cheseborough a knighthood.
 

US Presidential trivia:
The 2nd and 3rd Presidents of the US (John Adams and Thomas Jefferson...bitter political rivals btw), both died on the same day...July 4 (Independence Day) 1826. The 5th President, James Monroe died in 1931...on Independence Day.
John Adam's eldest boy, John Quincy Adams, became president in 1824. The latter named his eldest son George Washington Adams...he topped himself a year after his dad left office
 
US Presidential trivia:
The 2nd and 3rd Presidents of the US (John Adams and Thomas Jefferson...bitter political rivals btw), both died on the same day...July 4 (Independence Day) 1826. The 5th President, James Monroe died in 1931...on Independence Day.
John Adam's eldest boy, John Quincy Adams, became president in 1824. The latter named his eldest son George Washington Adams...he topped himself a year after his dad left office
Must have been 1831 for Monroe
 
The discovery of petroleum in the US threatened the livelihood of sperm whale oil chemist Robert Chesebrough.

But curious for opportunity, he travelled to the oilfields of Pennsylvania to discover workers had been soothing their cuts and burns with a residue left on the oil pumps.

Cheseborough would later extract a jelly from the residue, and patented it on May 14, 1878.

He named the product Vaseline, and was such an advocate that he would eat a spoonful of it every day.

Queen Victoria was so taken with Vaseline that she granted Cheseborough a knighthood.
That explains why it's sometimes sold under the name 'White Petroleum Jelly'.

Or it was in the 70s when my sister used to put it on her baby's bum to soothe his nappy rash
 
US Presidential trivia:
The 2nd and 3rd Presidents of the US (John Adams and Thomas Jefferson...bitter political rivals btw), both died on the same day...July 4 (Independence Day) 1826. The 5th President, James Monroe died in 1931...on Independence Day.
John Adam's eldest boy, John Quincy Adams, became president in 1824. The latter named his eldest son George Washington Adams...he topped himself a year after his dad left office
Could the deaths on independence day possibly have been from overindulgence in celebrations?
 

Adams was 90, Jefferson 83 and Monroe 73 when they expired. Those longevities suggest a theretofore non-gluttonous lifestyle...but your theory is not without some worth of consideration.
The correspondences between Adams and Jefferson in their later years are very interesting. They renewed their friendship from the revolutionary period after years of discord
 
Adams was 90, Jefferson 83 and Monroe 73 when they expired. Those longevities suggest a theretofore non-gluttonous lifestyle...but your theory is not without some worth of consideration.
Theyre good ages, but I always wonder. There are many celebs who seem to fall off the perch at Christmas, possibly for the same reason. The older body can't take the abuse any more.
 
Theyre good ages, but I always wonder. There are many celebs who seem to fall off the perch at Christmas, possibly for the same reason. The older body can't take the abuse any more.
Possibly, but speaking from personal experience, I have never been a man of moderation...I push envelopes. Sometimes that persuasion has lent me less than optimal precipitate: I recall detox clinics with alarming clarity...
My beautiful children always say "Dad, you are just out there"
...and who am I to disagree ?...

I always quote to them ( I have two sons and a middle daughter) those great lines from my favourite Oasis song:

"You and I , we're goin' to live forever..."
 
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Possibly, but speaking from personal experience, I have never been a man of moderation...I push envelopes. Sometimes that persuasion has lent me less than optimal precipitate: I recall detox clinics with alarming clarity...
My beautiful children always say "Dad, you are just out there"
...and who am I to disagree ?...

I always quote to them ( I have two sons and a middle daughter) those great lines from my favourite Oasis song:

"You and I , we're goin' to live forever..."

You are Brendan Rodgers and i claim my prize.
 

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