Group C: Slovenia, Denmark, Serbia, England

[TheBigIguana]

Are we sure it couldn't be better? This is a setup that expect some great players to somehow conjure something - it is enough to walk over weak teams, but it always looks lackluster and pained against the big teams, crying out for some creativity in the team. It's overreliant on Kane and when he gets suffocated the plan is to give it to Saka so he can run at them and... cross to Kane.

Honestly shocked you're the one to bring that up - you (like me, not a criticism) are very critical of lack of optimal setups and all, and this is honestly the definition of it

It certainly wouldn’t be my choice, the TAA stuff is a bit mad for sure, but what they have created is a way of playing that pretty consistently gets them through tournaments. Could they open it up more? I’d say yes, I just think it’s understandable why they’re not.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Sacrificing Foden playing through the middle so you can shoehorn that scruffy kopite into the side…. Carry on Gareth

Not sure that’s happening regardless…

 

[DualityNSNO]

It certainly wouldn’t be my choice, the TAA stuff is a bit mad for sure, but what they have created is a way of playing that pretty consistently gets them through tournaments. Could they open it up more? I’d say yes, I just think it’s understandable why they’re not.

Well, it's not like they've played about 50 games since he's set up like that, crying out for a more attacking CM partnership to create more for their abundant attack. Instead, he keeps playing the way we played under Martinez - 2 pivots and "hope for the best" going forward.

Not that this is a fix, but you can also... try other things? Especially now that they have even more attacking talent, it's a no brainer.

Instead, "Trent" in a defensive midfield duo.

 

[heatmeiser]

Don't like picking up after ourselves do we?

Even more pronounced in places like Germany where people actually care about keeping places tidy

What a bunch of gimps leaving the square like that

Did you see the state of London after the Scotland fans? Or the state of most places when pretty much any football team plays there?

I like to make fun of the bloated red faced Ingerlaaaamd fans as much as anyone but this is a pretty nothing thing to pick up on tbh

 

[heatmeiser]

As much as I like to laugh at Ingurlanders, doubt all the other countries leave it any differently, sadly. It's also why at World Cups and stuff the media is so in awe with Asian countries' fans picking up their garbage, as if it's something no one's ever though of.

Haha it looks like I pretty much copied your post word for word here

 

[DualityNSNO]

Did you see the state of London after the Scotland fans?

Wasn't even a game that day too, they were just passing by.

 

[duncs pigeon]

it wuz Scotland?

Nah, Chelsea

 

[Rita_Poon]

so we win the group if we win today

we could literally field a second XI against slovenia then

I'm not sure he's selected enough players to cover a full second eleven. Somehow.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Well, it's not like they've played about 50 games since he's set up like that, crying out for a more attacking CM partnership to create more for their abundant attack. Instead, he keeps playing the way we played under Martinez - 2 pivots and "hope for the best" going forward.

Not that this is a fix, but you can also... try other things? Especially now that they have even more attacking talent, it's a no brainer.

Instead, "Trent" in a defensive midfield duo.

He values that they basically don’t concede chances more. Again not my way of playing. But I think that’s the easy answer and so long as it is working he’ll be doing that.

 

[LEONARD]

It’s weird that they’re asking him to play midfield like this right? He’s talented no doubt but he doesn’t do this regularly.

He 'reinvented the role of right-back', so they are now asking him to 'reinvent the midfield role'.

Perhaps they should try him in goal instead of Pickford?

 

[carolinablue232]

Expecting England to dominate today, but I still don’t understand why TAA has to be involved. Not like you need his set pieces with Trippier in the side. What’s the point?

 

[DualityNSNO]

He values that they basically don’t concede chances more. Again not my way of playing. But I think that’s the easy answer and so long as it is working he’ll be doing that.

Fair enough, but it's working to the extent it should and is definitely wasting the potential of an almost literal Golden Generation of footballers.

Having no actual cup wins and even being relegated from the nations league thing as they were in a tough group and not with Malta and Gibraltar is absolutely shocking. This should've been a dominant few tournaments, not an almost win on home turf that didn't happen anyway.

Either way, England win today, most likely.

 

[TheBigIguana]

He 'reinvented the role of right-back', so they are now asking him to 'reinvent the midfield role'.

Perhaps they should try him in goal instead of Pickford?

I believe that they’ve said that but it’s incredible to me that anyone would say that in a world where guys like Roberto Carlos and Marcelo came long before Trent. I guess technically LB but we all know it is the same thing.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I believe that they’ve said that but it’s incredible to me that anyone would say that in a world where guys like Roberto Carlos and Marcelo came long before Trent. I guess technically LB but we all know it is the same thing.

And also Tony Hibbert.

 

[summerisle]

Can't wait to find out.