It's also why a loss would be hilarious though.
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Group C: Slovenia, Denmark, Serbia, England
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Southgate is killing England with his two defensive midfielders.
He has countered that by playing a Full Back who can't defend in there, instead.
Don't like picking up after ourselves do we?
Even more pronounced in places like Germany where people actually care about keeping places tidy
What a bunch of gimps leaving the square like that
All fans do this.
Well, realistically, 1 and then a full back for no reason.
It's the same set up that's been problematic and heavily criticised for his entire tenure, unchanged. Definition of madness and all that.
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That’s a standard tbh
Don't like picking up after ourselves do we?
Even more pronounced in places like Germany where people actually care about keeping places tidy
What a bunch of gimps leaving the square like that
Rita_Poon
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it wuz Scotland?
Don't like picking up after ourselves do we?
Even more pronounced in places like Germany where people actually care about keeping places tidy
What a bunch of gimps leaving the square like that
TheBigIguana
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Are we sure it’s not working?
so we win the group if we win today
we could literally field a second XI against slovenia then
we could literally field a second XI against slovenia then
It's two players in defensive midfield though. Stupid. Dilutes Rice's game - makes us vulnerable with round pegs in square holes.
No way this England team should have two players there and certainly not Arnold.
Are we sure it couldn't be better? This is a setup that expect some great players to somehow conjure something - it is enough to walk over weak teams, but it always looks lackluster and pained against the big teams, crying out for some creativity in the team. It's overreliant on Kane and when he gets suffocated the plan is to give it to Saka so he can run at them and... cross to Kane.
Honestly shocked you're the one to bring that up - you (like me, not a criticism) are very critical of lack of optimal setups and all, and this is honestly the definition of it
Yeah, absolutely agreed, but everyone and their nan knew this would be the setup, sadly.
Arnold is the flavour of the month that has to be picked, and he can't fit him at right back so it's just makeshift random positions. Might as well play him as a winger to be honest, no idea why he has to be a defensive midfielder.
Also similarly to @Billy Dean - I had to work today for the first game ffs! Even with home office, had to do a few things and needed to concentrate, so missed a seemingly good game.
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Sacrificing Foden playing through the middle so you can shoehorn that scruffy kopite into the side…. Carry on Gareth 
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