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Guardiola to be found out in the premier league


EverTheOptimist said:
I see Pep is saying it's not about money why they are winning trophies and anyone who says otherwise is *expletive* crazy in an interview with Gary Lineker.

Mmmmm then what could it be then Mr Guardiola, i guess he must have always had a soft spot for Man City when they were a Yo-yo club during his playing days, gotta be that.

What a football romantic he is.
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I'm particularly enjoying the cascade of media articles bemoaning the "lack of competitiveness" in the Premier League now that City have won their seventh title in 10 years. Are others enjoying the sound of a penny dropping in the mainstream media now that they realise that United, Liverpool, and Arsenal can no longer compete? Are others wondering where these voices were for the last 20 years when Abramovich took over at Chelsea and the Arabs moved in at the "Etihad"? Oh, that only impacted the likes of Everton.

I hope City win everything for another 10 years. It's the least these hypocrites deserve.
 

Drico said:
I'm particularly enjoying the cascade of media articles bemoaning the "lack of competitiveness" in the Premier League now that City have won their seventh title in 10 years. Are others enjoying the sound of a penny dropping in the mainstream media now that they realise that United, Liverpool, and Arsenal can no longer compete? Are others wondering where these voices were for the last 20 years when Abramovich took over at Chelsea and the Arabs moved in at the "Etihad"? Oh, that only impacted the likes of Everton.

I hope City win everything for another 10 years. It's the least these hypocrites deserve.
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It's a lazy statement to suggest those who didn't recognise the dangers of extreme capitalism in sport are now hypocrites for waking up to it in its most extreme form yet.

To celebrate it is a far worse ignorance or just terminal doomism
 
Walken said:
It's a lazy statement to suggest those who didn't recognise the dangers of extreme capitalism in sport are now hypocrites for waking up to it in its most extreme form yet.

To celebrate it is a far worse ignorance or just terminal doomism
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It's far lazier - and self-serving - to lament it now when others have been screaming about it for years but were dismissed as "little clubs".

You'd have to have been an idiot to think accepting a despotic nation state as a "fit and proper" owner would not make the league unregulatable. This same media are lamenting "poor Arsenal" - not the game's overall lack of competitiveness. They don't care about that once the Big Red clubs are winning.

The same media seemed to have little issue with the Premier League's solution to all of this uncompetitiveness: docking points from Everton and Nottingham Forest.

Competitiveness isn't just about wealth. You only have the chance of an equal playing field when the media holds ALL clubs and organisations to the same account. However, as we have seen this season, some clubs are more equal than others - and some are mere fodder. This takes the form of how points deductions and VAR decisions are framed. The media needs to look at itself and its cheerleading of injections of wealth from all sources over the last 20 years before occupying the moral high ground.
 
Drico said:
It's far lazier - and self-serving - to lament it now when others have been screaming about it for years but were dismissed as "little clubs".

You'd have to have been an idiot to think accepting a despotic nation state as a "fit and proper" owner would not make the league unregulatable. This same media are lamenting "poor Arsenal" - not the game's overall lack of competitiveness. They don't care about that once the Big Red clubs are winning.

The same media seemed to have little issue with the Premier League's solution to all of this uncompetitiveness: docking points from Everton and Nottingham Forest.

Competitiveness isn't just about wealth. You only have the chance of an equal playing field when the media holds ALL clubs and organisations to the same account. However, as we have seen this season, some clubs are more equal than others - and some are mere fodder. This takes the form of how points deductions and VAR decisions are framed. The media needs to look at itself and its cheerleading of injections of wealth from all sources over the last 20 years before occupying the moral high ground.
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You've thrown a blanket over anyone lamenting city and other clubs turning their league into a monopoly, plenty of fans were against city or chelseas ownership model, some didn't realise until later and a multitude of other timelines of events and motives. To call everyone who disagrees with cheering on city a hypocrite or rs media is a bit silly or perhaps you are talking predominantly about the media?

Definately problems in the media, a lot of which comes from the over saturation of football media which inevitably leads to lots of uninformed opinions being given a voice.

Competitiveness in an industry as large as football is predominantly about wealth, and if its to be prevented from being about anything other than wealth then it has to be by regulation. I don't disagree with the framing of how this has been reported by and large, there some decent voices and even some studies on the deterioration of competitiveness in football but they are usually drowned out by the simon jordans of the world.

One thing I can't bring myself to dull is cheer on a dull city side with disturbing ownership, an irritating manager and sycophantic fanbase with includes of noel gallagher as its cheerleader, I'm guessing people do this out of fatalism or some 'enemy of my enemy' vibe but I find it all a bit grim.
 

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