Guardiola to be found out in the premier league

[toffeejack]

He's [Poor language removed].

Aguero?

 

[toffeejack]

Yes, But also because Lukaku is better player than him by far.

Here in Argentina everybody hates Aguero, in the national team he is a ghost in the pitch.

A few months ago he said that when he left football he will be missed in the national team hahahhsshahaha

Also in 2011 he said "i want Racing to be relegated"...


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We stayed in first division, and in 2013 Independiente was relegated

And in 2014 we won the league tittle

So he's crap because he said he hoped racing get relegated?

 

[BlueLlama]

Yes, But also because Lukaku is better player than him by far.

Here in Argentina everybody hates Aguero, in the national team he is a ghost in the pitch.

A few months ago he said that when he left football he will be missed in the national team hahahhsshahaha

Also in 2011 he said "i want Racing to be relegated"...


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We stayed in first division, and in 2013 Independiente was relegated

And in 2014 we won the league tittle

Your club is the most corrupt ever tho. It was saved from extinction by politicians wasn't it?

 

[Argentina Racing]

So he's crap because he said he hoped racing get relegated?

He is crap because he only score against bottom league teams, and in important games for example CL or in the national team he desappears. He is mot fast, he doesn't have good long distance shot, He doesn't have a good header, and also now he is fat

Guardiola noticed all that, and he is dropping him to the bench very often

 

[Argentina Racing]

Your club is the most corrupt ever tho. It was saved from extinction by politicians wasn't it?

No. we entered in bankruptcy in 1999, and our people chained to the stadium to avoid liquidation, in what was the greatest love show that was seen in the history of Argentine football.

That year Racing stopped competing in the tournament, but our crowd filled the stadium when Racing was supposed to play at home, until the problem was solved, when an private company took over the club.

Nowadays independent has debts that exceed more than twice those that had racing in 1999, but the bankruptcy does not appear, no one knows why.

Most corrupt club ever Is independent without a doubt: Grondona, who was President of the Argentine football association (AFA), was a recognized Independent fan (was Independiente president before), and a few years ago came to light phone calls where he admitted that he arrenged the referees, using as an example the libertadores cup of 1964 that Independiente "won".

Grondona died in 2013, when Independiente descended and immediately after Racing was champion ... chance? I do not think so

 

[Jamo Martinez]

For real fans is impossible to think like that.

Racing get relegated in 1983, and till 2013 Independiente fans reminded us that day whenever they could...

That's why 15 June 2013 is one of the happiest days of my life.

Christ that must have been rough with Independiente winning the league. I only know that because they beat Liverpool in the intercontinental in 84.

You probably hate him but Bochini was a boss player. Unlucky to play in the same position as Maradona.

 

[toffeejack]

He is crap because he only score against bottom league teams, and in important games for example CL or in the national team he desappears. He is mot fast, he doesn't have good long distance shot, He doesn't have a good header, and also now he is fat

Guardiola noticed all that, and he is dropping him to the bench very often

Nah

 

[Argentina Racing]

Christ that must have been rough with Independiente winning the league. I only know that because they beat Liverpool in the intercontinental in 84.

You probably hate him but Bochini was a boss player. Unlucky to play in the same position as Maradona.

Bochini is one of the best players of the hisotory of the arg football for the ones that could saw him.

Nowadays he goes to events / birthdays to make presence and gather some money... a real shame

About indepndient being champion in 1983 ... now something similar happened, when we were champions in 2014 when independent returned to first division

 

[bicycleheader]

Sold a lot of big name players, changed their style and turned them from also rans (for barcelona standards) into the best team in the world after he took over.

You are right in that lots of silly posters in here don't really know much of the details of how much Guardiola changed Barça when he took over, but rebuilt from the ground up is a bit much!

 

[BlueLlama]

No. we entered in bankruptcy in 1999, and our people chained to the stadium to avoid liquidation, in what was the greatest love show that was seen in the history of Argentine football.

That year Racing stopped competing in the tournament, but our crowd filled the stadium when Racing was supposed to play at home, until the problem was solved, when an private company took over the club.

Nowadays independent has debts that exceed more than twice those that had racing in 1999, but the bankruptcy does not appear, no one knows why.

Most corrupt club ever Is independent without a doubt: Grondona, who was President of the Argentine football association (AFA), was a recognized Independent fan (was Independiente president before), and a few years ago came to light phone calls where he admitted that he arrenged the referees, using as an example the libertadores cup of 1964 that Independiente "won".

Grondona died in 2013, when Independiente descended and immediately after Racing was champion ... chance? I do not think so

Didn't they re-jig the relegation rules to stop you getting relegated?

 

[Argentina Racing]

Didn't they re-jig the relegation rules to stop you getting relegated?

In Argentina a mode called "average" (promedios in spanish) is used since 1983... the same year that racing was relegated.

Racing and Chicago that year were the first clubs to ger relegated under that new method that persists to this day.

So no, the didn't re-jig the relegation rules to stop us getting relegated, just the opposite, Racing was relegated by a change of rule that benefit Boca, who would been relegated in 1984.

I leave you an interesting article about this, if you know Spanish I recommend it:

http://m.tn.com.ar/tnylagente/deportes/historia-del-promedio,-no-mas-dudas_352308

 

[a bell maul]

In Argentina a mode called "average" (promedios in spanish) is used since 1983... the same year that racing was relegated.
Racing and Chicago that year were the first clubs to ger relegated under that new method that persists to this day.
So no, the didn't re-jig the relegation rules to stop us getting relegated, just the opposite, Racing was relegated by a change of rule that benefit Boca, who would been relegated in 1984.
I leave you an interesting article about this, if you know Spanish I recommend it:

http://m.tn.com.ar/tnylagente/deportes/historia-del-promedio,-no-mas-dudas_352308

...I think there's only a few on here familiar with Spanish...

...pity it wasn't in Greek

 

[Kenshin]

You are right in that lots of silly posters in here don't really know much of the details of how much Guardiola changed Barça when he took over, but rebuilt from the ground up is a bit much!

Ok in the general sense ground up might be too much. But for a manager who sold off the crown jewels and built a team around a teenager (give or take his age at the time) it was pretty significant, even if the teenager was better than most already.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

In Argentina a mode called "average" (promedios in spanish) is used since 1983... the same year that racing was relegated.

Racing and Chicago that year were the first clubs to ger relegated under that new method that persists to this day.

So no, the didn't re-jig the relegation rules to stop us getting relegated, just the opposite, Racing was relegated by a change of rule that benefit Boca, who would been relegated in 1984.

I leave you an interesting article about this, if you know Spanish I recommend it:

http://m.tn.com.ar/tnylagente/deportes/historia-del-promedio,-no-mas-dudas_352308

In 83 River finished second from bottom but had a better average than Nueva Chicago.

 

[Argentina Racing]

In 83 River finished second from bottom but had a better average than Nueva Chicago.

Yes, but the average system was implemented at the beginning of the season, after that, River had a bad tournament and finished in the last positions, although it was something unthought