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2018/19 Gylfi Sigurdsson

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mkrudden said:
And right back at you- you clearly don't want to see it what he brings. But that's your prerogative.

I'd just ask you to be more open minded towards the error being yours, given statistically more people think you're wrong than right.
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I do want to, why wouldn’t I? I’ve consistently said I want to be able to see this quality player you all see. I want to be proven wrong, I still do. What reason do I have to arbitrarily dislike him and be blind to facts?
 

It may be the fee, but there is a general trend by a few who may or may not be Everton fans, to criticize Everton players regardless. I can't explain it. Coleman is copping it now, aside from Sigurdsson and several others. A little further back, Lukaku, who is a world class player, was hammered on here for lack of effort, he does not care about Everton etc. It's the way it is.
 
everton1953 said:
It may be the fee, but there is a general trend by a few who may or may not be Everton fans, to criticize Everton players regardless. I can't explain it. Coleman is copping it now, aside from Sigurdsson and several others. A little further back, Lukaku, who is a world class player, was hammered on here for lack of effort, he does not care about Everton etc. It's the way it is.
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Yeah but in the games lukaku thought we had no chance in he didn’t put the effort in. That’s a fact. Sigurdsson does put the effort in but he’s just not that good. Players will be criticised when they are not playing well or at their best.
 
Goodness me this thread doesn't change, does it?

We overpaid for Gylfi. Massively. £45m was an insane price. I think we all agree on that. I have been a fan for several years, and remember some regulars on here suggesting he'd be a good signing even when he was at Reading. He has always been a player with obvious technical ability and I was an advocate of buying him if the chance arose. HOWEVER there is a point with every player where the quoted fee is simply above what he is worth to the buying club. Sadly, due to inept work by Steve Walsh, we left ourselves with very few options late in the window last year and a relatively inexperienced owner mistakenly felt that it was important to appease a noisy section of the fanbase with a "big money" signing. At £25m it was a no-brainer, but we should have just walked away when prices above £30m started getting thrown around.

Does that mean Gylfi is a crap player? No.
Does it mean fan expectations of him have been elevated? Yes.
Does it mean that it will be incredibly difficult for him to ever perform regularly at a high enough level to meet those expectations? Yes.
If he does not meet these raised expectations, is it likely that many fans will feel that he has failed to justify his fee? Yes.
Was he responsible for his transfer fee being that high? No.
Is this particularly fair on him? No.
Does he nonetheless have an opportunity, every time he is selected, to deliver a performance that will impress the fans? Yes.

Over to you Gylfi. A big part of "justifying the fee" will be achieved simply by being seen to obviously be trying to justify the fee... so start working on corner deliveries and racking up assists. Because believe me, once Silva has all the other pieces in place for his preferred 4-3-3, there is no starting spot in the lineup for Gylfi. He just doesn't fit. He's a 10 in a 4-2-3-1 or the tip of a midfield diamond - that's it. The only way this changes is if the team and Gylfi in particular start turning in consistently good performances in the 4-2-3-1, making Silva possibly review his preferences.
 

4737carlin said:
No one should care about the fee, some players are cheap and some are expemsive, dont forget we also sell players for good money, he isnt a 45m player, he is an Everton player, the fee means nothing these days
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Until we have a bottomless pile of cash AND the league rules allow us to buy whoever we like at whatever price we like, the fee means an awful lot.
 
Tree13 said:
Until we have a bottomless pile of cash AND the league rules allow us to buy whoever we like at whatever price we like, the fee means an awful lot.
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It means nothing, people are looking at him as a 45m player, whats that? Was John Stones a 3m player, or Gueye a 7m player? What is a 3m or a 7m player? You cant put an expectation level on a player based on a fee, its ridiculous to judge a player based solely on what was paid for him.
Besides we tried to get him for less then 45m and Swansea wouldnt budge, we didnt value him at 45m, they did and we no choice once we decided we wanted that player
 
4737carlin said:
It means nothing, people are looking at him as a 45m player, whats that? Was John Stones a 3m player, or Gueye a 7m player? What is a 3m or a 7m player? You cant put an expectation level on a player based on a fee, its ridiculous to judge a player based solely on what was paid for him.
Besides we tried to get him for less then 45m and Swansea wouldnt budge, we didnt value him at 45m, they did and we no choice once we decided we wanted that player
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We aren't going to agree on this mate. We paid £45m for him so rightly or wrongly this will have a bearing on people's expectations. The fee is not the sole basis, but it has an influence and you can deny that all you like but it's still true.

Of course we had a choice, by the way. We could have walked away. Perhaps that's EXACTLY what we should have done.
 

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