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2019/20 Gylfi Sigurdsson

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CRIMHEAD said:
Are you claiming Pep didn't actually divide up his pitch into 20 zones? That he doesn't set up passing sequences and stuff on that pitch? Are you suggesting that doesn't happen?
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Yes he is, @mkrudden also pm’d and said you talk utter
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mkrudden said:
The premise of my question? I simply asked whether you think Pep considered the documentary's "target audience" when he was being filmed. Because that's what you are seemingly insinuating, aren't you?



You've still not answered and instead keep deflecting.

I've always found you quirky but quite balanced in here. But you've absolutely lost the plot on this.

In relation to Pep, I'd recommend reading (as I've done) the series of books by Martí Perarna which go into series detail on how Pep sets his teams up, drills and set ups. It will certainly give you more insight than a "couple of episodes" of a documentary and some speculation on what buzz words he uses.

Instead, it might give some actual substance to this weird rhetoric you're pushing on us all.
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I'm truly not deflecting, I don't understand the plot to begin with, so not sure how I could lose it. Pep was just coaching his team. Being himself. Was barely aware he was being filmed. What are you suggesting I insinuated?

The question was - why didn't someone hear Pep use the term Zone 14 or Golden square during the documentary. I thought I responded to that adequately. I watched some of the documentary, but I didn't find it particularly compelling. But it wasn't oriented towards anyone interested in tactics it was the story of the season. So the producers who make the show didn't seem too into tactics as their intended audience wasn't soccer or football coaches. It certainly wasn't me.

Now you tell me - did they get out on to the training pitch? Was it early enough where he was putting in his tactics? Did they show his 20 zones? He certainly used to run training sessions like that at least early in the season at least. Now with City his interest is playing more in the half spaces and he's spoken about that time and time again. He's explained why he attacked more in the center of the pitch with Barca vs. Man City. He does that in normal interviews that aren't even tactically heavy in content.

Obviously I'm aware of the Pep Confidental book, although I've got a couple others that I'm trying to get through. Would that be high on your list of recommendations?
 
CRIMHEAD said:
I'm truly not deflecting, I don't understand the plot to begin with, so not sure how I could lose it. Pep was just coaching his team. Being himself. Was barely aware he was being filmed. What are you suggesting I insinuated?

The question was - why didn't someone hear Pep use the term Zone 14 or Golden square during the documentary. I thought I responded to that adequately. I watched some of the documentary, but I didn't find it particularly compelling. But it wasn't oriented towards anyone interested in tactics it was the story of the season. So the producers who make the show didn't seem too into tactics as their intended audience wasn't soccer or football coaches. It certainly wasn't me.

Now you tell me - did they get out on to the training pitch? Was it early enough where he was putting in his tactics? Did they show his 20 zones? He certainly used to run training sessions like that at least early in the season at least. Now with City his interest is playing more in the half spaces and he's spoken about that time and time again. He's explained why he attacked more in the center of the pitch with Barca vs. Man City. He does that in normal interviews that aren't even tactically heavy in content.

Obviously I'm aware of the Pep Confidental book, although I've got a couple others that I'm trying to get through. Would that be high on your list of recommendations?
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Yes mate, they are fantastic reads. The first one being the far better one. The second is off cuts and extras but still fascinating.
 

zook said:
Just wish he’d drop deeper and find pockets of space more effectively when we’ve got possession. His ability to put passes through should be a massive weapon for us but we hardly get to utilise it.
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Makes you wonder what his instructions actually are. It’s obvious he’s been asked to support the high press but it’s odd how high he stays at times.
 

carolinablue232 said:
Makes you wonder what his instructions actually are. It’s obvious he’s been asked to support the high press but it’s odd how high he stays at times.
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He is effective in the press and helps us off the ball in that regard a lot but given that being so far up the field when we do have the ball doesn’t really allow him to have much influence and do the things that set him apart from other players, he should 100% be dropping back and getting on the ball more imo.

I think he struggles a bit when things get crowded, his movement isn’t great, doesn’t have that agility/burst of pace to get away from players consistently and his first touch can be a little hit and miss. Not ideal when he plays almost as a striker in our system.

He’s a top player that’s putting in subpar performances and I’d hope Silva will be seeing it’s got a lot to do with him being him so far up the pitch that he struggles to have an influence and he’s unable to do what he does best.
 
zook said:
He’s a top player that’s putting in subpar performances and I’d hope Silva will be seeing it’s got a lot to do with him being him so far up the pitch that he struggles to have an influence and he’s unable to do what he does best.
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He is pretty much the opposite for me. An often average player who is capable of moments of brilliance. Your top players will adapt to any scenario.
 
Papa Shango said:
He is pretty much the opposite for me. An often average player who is capable of moments of brilliance. Your top players will adapt to any scenario.
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I say Gylfi is a top player but I’m very aware of his limitations and flaws and I think they become much more apparent because he plays so far forward. I think he’d produce them moments of brilliance on a much more regular basis if he wasn’t playing basically up front.

I disagree that top players can adapt to any scenario too. Everyone knows Kante is a top player but he struggled to adapt at being pushed further up the pitch by Sarri last season. He still did a job but he was being played in a way that didn’t get the best out of his skillset. Just because you’ve got a top player doesn’t mean you can play them out of position and expect the same results.

If you have a player, like Sigurdsson, who is brilliant at playing through balls to our quick forwards then you don’t want that player playing further up the pitch than them.
 

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