2019/20 Gylfi Sigurdsson

[Carlito]

I think with Niasse and Sandro, we are probably paying a large chunk of their wages as well (and Niasse turned down a loan move at the end). I suppose the question would be, would we be prepared to do the same for Sigurdsson?

It's not based on anything, but my personal belief is, that when managers come in, pressure is put upon them, whether overt or covert to play certain players. That a lad like Sigurdsson, is on x amount and cost y amount so you have to play him. I firmly believe that.

If you're Brands now, and Ancelotti comes and says to you, I can't work with the player, then surely you make a big call, and tell him he will be training on his own etc, and hope that ensures he lowers his demands for a transfer? Koeman did similar with Niasse, but got slaughtered for it and probably the wrong lesson was learnt at the time. It was undoubtedly a nasty thing to do, but Koeman, who's operated at elite football knows how it works. As a club, we appear to nice in all sorts of aspects.

The derby game at Anfield remains a big problem for me. It remains a big problem for me that Delph was getting into arguments with fans and offering them to come down to the ground, and he's meant to be a senior player setting an example. That Sigurdsson is still here and captain. I do wonder how boxed in we are and how saleable they are.

What I'll say about Gylfi, is he looks like a lad who knows he has no future here. I hope thats the case. Strangely he'd probably do ok at Sheffield United.

Unless it ends up being someone like West Ham or Newcastle, who have recently seen fit to hand contracts to Wilshire and Carroll, I would have thought that it'll be a case of Everton continuing to pay some of Sigurdsson's wages. It's not ideal, obviously, but I think it's imperative that a line is drawn in the sand now. The club needs to either start taking itself seriously or stop spending money.

I was in favour of appointing Koeman after his spell at Southampton, having previously thought that he'd relegate them based on what happened at Valencia (I came around to the idea that for whatever reason, English football must just suit him better). In the end, he was simply too lazy to keep up with the meticulous super coaches that became popular here, but I think he was right to take a hard line with players who he had no intention of using. He also had Barkley playing the best football of his career, despite all the criticism over his handling of that situation.

I'm actually less concerned about Delph than anyone else, purely because I don't believe that he wants to be here any more than we want to see him stay. He's too full of himself to accept a backup role, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's already got his agent putting the feelers out.

 

[evertony]

Based on last night Neville could have hung, drawn and quartered the whole side with the exception of Richardson, Gordon and possibly Digne we were that bad. Gylfi was undeniably poor, but he was in esteemed company. The midfield is as poor, fragile, technically limited, physically weak and mentally lost as it’s ever been. We are quite possibly the most predictable, lethargic and mind-numbingly dull team to watch.
Personally, I don’t see the quality of Richardson and Ancelotti hanging around too long if this type of performance reads it’s ugly head again. Ditto Holgate who will be spoilt for choice of potential suitors.

 

[andy4efc]

Embarrassment. He couldn’t give a toss about the club which is fine, but he clearly doesn’t have any pride in his football. Bad games are bad games but he clearly just isn’t arsed at all. Davies is worse footballer but at least he gives his all every game and doesn’t hide

embarrassment to himself

 

[Bullens Rd]

Rather have kept Schneider and shipped out Sigurdsson in all fairness

 

[Zatara]

Unless it ends up being someone like West Ham or Newcastle, who have recently seen fit to hand contracts to Wilshire and Carroll, I would have thought that it'll be a case of Everton continuing to pay some of Sigurdsson's wages. It's not ideal, obviously, but I think it's imperative that a line is drawn in the sand now. The club needs to either start taking itself seriously or stop spending money.

I was in favour of appointing Koeman after his spell at Southampton, having previously thought that he'd relegate them based on what happened at Valencia (I came around to the idea that for whatever reason, English football must just suit him better). In the end, he was simply too lazy to keep up with the meticulous super coaches that became popular here, but I think he was right to take a hard line with players who he had no intention of using. He also had Barkley playing the best football of his career, despite all the criticism over his handling of that situation.

I'm actually less concerned about Delph than anyone else, purely because I don't believe that he wants to be here any more than we want to see him stay. He's too full of himself to accept a backup role, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's already got his agent putting the feelers out.

I also didnt want Koeman it was such an obviously poor appointment i think alot of people jumped on the name

Seemed to be totally for Sigurdsson as well which made sense if he built a team to get him and a CF into 15 goals each but he didnt.

 

[Zatara]

Signed for £42mil.

£8.4mil book value a season

Today £16.8mil value on the books. Next season £8.4mil.

My guess is a 12month loan with a guaranteed sale in 12months at £8.4mil

 

[jazzy]

Embarrassment. He couldn’t give a toss about the club which is fine, but he clearly doesn’t have any pride in his football. Bad games are bad games but he clearly just isn’t arsed at all. Davies is worse footballer but at least he gives his all every game and doesn’t hide

embarrassment to himself

This , every day of the week. Davies is not great but at least he tries and doesn't bottle challenges.
Iceland is a disgrace.

 

[jazzy]

Signed for £42mil.

£8.4mil book value a season

Today £16.8mil value on the books. Next season £8.4mil.

My guess is a 12month loan with a guaranteed sale in 12months at £8.4mil

Desperately hope you're right Zat but can't see anyone taking him with his current wage.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Signed for £42mil.

£8.4mil book value a season

Today £16.8mil value on the books. Next season £8.4mil.

My guess is a 12month loan with a guaranteed sale in 12months at £8.4mil

my dream. Praying for a German or Italian team to come and take him off our hands for that kind of deal. Serie A would probably suit him a lot better pace wise as well.

 

[Zatara]

Desperately hope you're right Zat but can't see anyone taking him with his current wage.

my dream. Praying for a German or Italian team to come and take him off our hands for that kind of deal. Serie A would probably suit him a lot better pace wise as well.

I think its either the 1 year loan guaranteed purchase £8.4mil or a 2 year loan so we write him off.

 

[brieverton]

I'm rather not play him again, even with limited options. At least not start him.

We can't win games without 100% effort, we don't have the luxury of cruising through games and winning, and on Monday night he did not care at all.

 

[nsno-chris]

Signed for £42mil.

£8.4mil book value a season

Today £16.8mil value on the books. Next season £8.4mil.

My guess is a 12month loan with a guaranteed sale in 12months at £8.4mil

show us ye spreadsheet Zat

 

[DOMNOLAN]

Siggurdson comes on, I switch off. Refuse to watch that waste of space play. Good night lads

 

[Yorkie89]

I cant believe this ball bag has ended up on the pitch after Monday no chance would rather play with no midfield

 

[GrandOldTeam]

No coincidence he's come on AGAIN and we've went on an scored. Just like Norwich.

Midfield is tons more settled with him in.

Best option at the moment.

/legs it.