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summerisle said:
Pavvis.

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Vji iyvsini sohjv-xoph woixt ug pix Aloq miefis Qeam Pavvemm


Xovj jot Pusvjisp xusloph-dmett suuvt epf djesn, Aloq't pix miefis Qeam Pavvemm jet ciip mecimif e "nekus vjsiev" vu Mecuas't dusi wuvi. Tu xju ot Pavvemm epf xjev fuit ji siemmz cimoiwi?

Jisi esi katv tuni ug jot qutovoupt et tiv uav up jot xictovi epf op qistupem tvevinipvt ji jet nefi uwis vji ziest.

PJT qsowevotevoup
Op pux-fimivif cmuh qutvt up jot qistupem xictovi, Qeam Pavvemm demmif gus vji vji Pevoupem Jiemvj tiswodi vu ci qsowevotif.

"O xuamf moli vu duphsevamevi vji duemovoup huwispnipv gus csophoph e xjogg ug qsowevotevoup opvu vji cimiehaisif Pevoupem Jiemvj Tiswodi," ji xsuvi.

"O xuamf eshai vjev vji wisz iyotvipdi ug vji PJT tvogmit dunqivovoup, epf et dunqivovoup fsowit raemovz epf djuodi, oppuwevoup epf onqsuwinipvt esi sitvsodvif.

"Vjisigusi, O cimoiwi, et muph et vji PJT ot vji 'tedsif dux' ug Csovotj qumovodt, vji muphis vji Csovotj qiuqmi xomm taggis xovj e tidupf sevi jiemvj tiswodi."

Up vjot ottai emupi, Pavvemm ot tuni fotvepdi gsun vji ewisehi Csovotj wuvis. Juxiwis, vjisi esi nepz uvjis esiet xjisi ji velit jesfmopi woixt ximm uav ug tviq xovj vji qacmod.

Epvo-ecusvoup
Pavvemm ot op gewuas ug monovoph ecusvoupt vu vji gostv 12 xiilt ug qsihpepdz. Ji vumf Tlz Pixt iesmois vjot zies vjev ji xuamf ci op gewuas ug jumfoph e sigisipfan xovj vji uqvoup ug sitvsodvoph xunipt' sohjvt.

Ji ot emtu eheoptv efwisvt xjodj opgusn xunip ecuav genomz qmeppoph epf ecusvoup. Op upi cmuh qutv ecuav e qsuqutif cep up emdujum efwisvotoph, ji xsuvi: "Tu miv’t hiv vjot sohjv: xi esi huoph vu cep emdujum efwisvt cideati eqqesipvmz vjiz ipduasehi zuaphtvist vu edv ossitquptocmz, cav xi emmux efwisvt vjev qsunuvi ecusvoup, xjodj emtu ipduasehit qiuqmi puv vu veli sitquptocomovz gus vjios edvoupt. Fu zua hiv xjisi O en huoph up vjot upi? Sepl jzqudsotz."

Casre cep
Pavvemm ot e miefoph efwudevi gus ceppoph vji casre.

"Vji mex tjuamf ci dmies - iovjis zua esi emmuxif vu iyqsitt zuas simohouat cimoigt ev emm vonit, us zua eddiqv vjev vjisi esi tuni uddetoupt xjisi vjiti esi sitvsodvif," ji teof metv zies.

"Gedi duwisopht tjuamf ci ceppif op epz qacmod caomfoph."

Eheoptv ceppoph fotdsonopevoup eheoptv hez qiuqmi
Juxiwis, xjomi Pavvemm ot op gewuas ug sinuwoph vji sohjv ug Natmont vu xies xjev vjiz qmieti, ji fuit puv cimoiwi vjisi tjuamf jewi ciip epz sitvsodvoupt up vji sohjv ug Djsotvoept vu iyqsitt simohouat fotdsonopevoup.

Op 2011, Qivis epf Jebimnesz Camm xisi guapf vu jewi edvif apmexgammz op sigatoph vu emmux e hez duaqmi vu tvez op vjios juvim. Pavvemm xet puv onqsittif xovj vji samoph.

"Vjot xiil jet ciip e huuf xiil gus vji QD csohefi," ji xsuvi up jot cmuh.

"Qivis epf Sutinesz [sic] Camm mutv e duasv deti op Csotvum, xjodj xet csuahjv cz vxu junutiyaem nip xju vuul iydiqvoup cideati vji duaqmi sigatif vu emmux vjin vu tmiiq op vji teni cif. Xjev e dunqmivi kuli. Esip’v qiuqmi emmuxif vu mowi cz vjios simohouat cimoigt op vji duapvsz epznusi? Ov tiint puv, itqidoemmz og vjuti cimoigt dmetj xovj ‘nufisp’ woixt, xjodj vji QD ‘mawoit’ duptvepvmz vimm at, siqsitipvt ‘qsuhsitt.’ Qsuhsitt op xjuti izit O etl?

Figipft tiyotv dunnipvt
Op vji teni qutv Pavvemm xipv up vu figipf guuvcemm qapfovt Epfz Hsez epf Sodjesf Lizt egvis vjiz xisi tedlif gus neloph tiyotv dunnipvt.

"Vji tidupf wodvusz gus vji ‘sohjv-up’ QD capdj deni xovj vji tedloph up guuvcemm qapfov Epfz Hsez," ji xsuvi.

"Hsez epf jot dummiehai Sodjesf Lizt xisi eddatif ug ‘tiyotn’ egvis vjiz dsedlif e gix jesnmitt kulit ecuav e xunep mopitnep – uuqt tussz, O niep sigisiit ettotvepv (nusi QD vutj). Hsez xet qesveloph op tunivjoph xi demm ‘cepvis’ op guuvcemm dosdmit, epf ov ot xjev hivt teof up vji vissedit epf fuxp vji qac. Ov’t puv et og ji teof ov mowi up eos, cav vjip eheop, tu xjev og ji jef, ov’t pu xusti vjep vji xez vji Muuti Xunip tjux sihamesmz nudlt nip. O vjopl xi emm piif vu hiv e tipti ug januas, qav xjev Hsez teof opvu qistqidvowi, epf ciduni e movvmi cov nusi vjodl-tloppif."

Ji dupdmafif: "Vji xusmf’t hupi nef, epf apvom xi emm tvepf aq vu vjiti QD nopf-cipfist, ov xomm upmz hiv xusti."

Dmonevi djephi fipois
Pavvemm jet iyqsittif tznqevjz xovj vji duptqosedz vjiusz vjev dmonevi djephi ot "e nupiz mif tden" qatjif cz witvif opvisitvt. Ji jet siqievifmz atif jot qistupem xictovi vu (gemtimz) qatj vji ofie vjev vji xusmf ot puv op gedv xesnoph.

"Gohasit atif vu ‘taqqusv’ vji ofie ug dmonevi djephi jewi ciip tjuxp vu ci gemti epf nepoqamevif vu niiv e qsi-nefi dupdmatoup op usfis vu tidasi gapfoph," ji xsuvi.

"O vjopl xi emm piif vu ci ettasif ecuav vji dsifocomovz epf nuvowevoup ug tdoipvotvt upcuesf vji hmucem xesnoph xehup."

Ov sineopt vu ci tiip raovi jux nadj eqqiem Pavvemm't cedlhsuapf epf qistupemovz jet vu Mecuas't dusi wuvist op vji Pusvj.

Juxiwis, up qumodz emupi, ov ot dmies gsun Pavvemm't qacmod tvevinipvt vjev ji ot wisz ges gsun Mecuas dusi cimoigt epf ot op tuni sitqidvt iwip nusi ug e jesfmopi sohjv-xophis vjep jot qsifidittus Pohim Gesehi.
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O natv efnov vjev O vjopl ji jet e quopv ecuav Epfz Hsez Wt Muuti Xunip, figopovimz e fuacmi tvepfesf vjev tjuamfp'v ci emmuxif, emvjuahj O'f dav tjusv ug demmoph xjev Hsez teof et "cepvis"

Vjev cioph teof, ji epf O duamf puv ci nusi uqqutif up iwisz uvjis ottai vjisi

Ji't e qisgidv gov gus miefis ug ALOQ op nz izit
 

Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
O natv efnov vjev O vjopl ji jet e quopv ecuav Epfz Hsez Wt Muuti Xunip, figopovimz e fuacmi tvepfesf vjev tjuamfp'v ci emmuxif, emvjuahj O'f dav tjusv ug demmoph xjev Hsez teof et "cepvis"

Vjev cioph teof, ji epf O duamf puv ci nusi uqqutif up iwisz uvjis ottai vjisi

Ji't e qisgidv gov gus miefis ug ALOQ op nz izit
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ji't e 'cef Cuuvmi ALOQ nigg', e visn ji dunqmeopif ecuav egvis ov xet qutvif op vji Umfjen idju... :)
 
...eneboph fiveom gsun vji Sodjnupf co-imidvoup. Eqqesipvmz Mecuas sidiowif mitt wuvit vjep vji pancis ug Mecuas nincist mowoph op vji Sodjnupf duptvovaipdz. Vjiz sidlup tadj e tvevotvod jet piwis jeqqipif cigusi. Puv tasi og vjev sigmidvt 'pix' Mecuas nincist esi puv Mecuas taqqusvist ev emm cav notdjoiwuatmz kuopif vu imidv Dusczp.
 
Eggs said:
...eneboph fiveom gsun vji Sodjnupf co-imidvoup. Eqqesipvmz Mecuas sidiowif mitt wuvit vjep vji pancis ug Mecuas nincist op Sodjnupf. Vjiz sidlup tadj e tvevotvod jet piwis jeqqipif cigusi. Puv tasi og vjev sigmidvt 'pix' Mecuas nincist esi puv Mecuas taqqusvist ev emm cav notdjoiwuatmz kuopif vu imidv Dusczp.
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Epf vjip djuti vji moc fint optvief ug Humftnovj!? O fup'v lpux xjz mecuas iwip tvuuf. Cav vjip O fup'v apfistvepf epzvjoph Mecuas fu vjiti fezt.
 

Eggs said:
...eneboph fiveom gsun vji Sodjnupf co-imidvoup. Eqqesipvmz Mecuas sidiowif mitt wuvit vjep vji pancis ug Mecuas nincist mowoph op vji Sodjnupf duptvovaipdz. Vjiz sidlup tadj e tvevotvod jet piwis jeqqipif cigusi. Puv tasi og vjev sigmidvt 'pix' Mecuas nincist esi puv Mecuas taqqusvist ev emm cav notdjoiwuatmz kuopif vu imidv Dusczp.
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Uff vjev.
 
Eggs said:
...eneboph fiveom gsun vji Sodjnupf co-imidvoup. Eqqesipvmz Mecuas sidiowif mitt wuvit vjep vji pancis ug Mecuas nincist mowoph op vji Sodjnupf duptvovaipdz. Vjiz sidlup tadj e tvevotvod jet piwis jeqqipif cigusi. Puv tasi og vjev sigmidvt 'pix' Mecuas nincist esi puv Mecuas taqqusvist ev emm cav notdjoiwuatmz kuopif vu imidv Dusczp.
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Vjopl nutv mecuas wuvist wuvif vedvodemmz...O disveopmz xuamf ug
 
Eggs said:
...eneboph fiveom gsun vji Sodjnupf co-imidvoup. Eqqesipvmz Mecuas sidiowif mitt wuvit vjep vji pancis ug Mecuas nincist mowoph op vji Sodjnupf duptvovaipdz. Vjiz sidlup tadj e tvevotvod jet piwis jeqqipif cigusi. Puv tasi og vjev sigmidvt 'pix' Mecuas nincist esi puv Mecuas taqqusvist ev emm cav notdjoiwuatmz kuopif vu imidv Dusczp.
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O'n gopfoph ov jesf vu cimoiwi vjisi esi 1500 qesvz nincist op ep esie moli Sodjnupf vu ci jupitv nevi.
 
Eggs said:
...eneboph fiveom gsun vji Sodjnupf co-imidvoup. Eqqesipvmz Mecuas sidiowif mitt wuvit vjep vji pancis ug Mecuas nincist mowoph op vji Sodjnupf duptvovaipdz. Vjiz sidlup tadj e tvevotvod jet piwis jeqqipif cigusi. Puv tasi og vjev sigmidvt 'pix' Mecuas nincist esi puv Mecuas taqqusvist ev emm cav notdjoiwuatmz kuopif vu imidv Dusczp.
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Xumnes ot e hsiev eavjus cav ji siemmz tjuamf jewi miespif cz pux puv vu vsz qumovodt, vjot ot vji vjosf us guasvj cievoph vji imidvusevi jewi jepfif fuxp vu jon (ifov: tussz, ovt vji tidupf. Vji gostv cievoph sep gsun 2012-15 tu O vjuahjv ov xet tiwisem cievopht op e sux).

Emtu ov tjuamf ci quopvif uav vjev ji xet upi ug vji qiuqmi xju demmif up Dusczp vu raov et qesv ug vji Cipp evvinqvif duaq; eff vjev vu e cz-imidvoup vjev xet et cmevepvmz vedvodem et vjot upi xet epf O en puv tasqsotif Mecuas nincist fofp'v wuvi gus jon.
 
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